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[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 139 points 9 months ago

those tables usually are wrong or misleading, i don't like them.

Edge for example has the 3rd party cookie blocking and it works ok, so why it's "no" and not "somewhat" or similar?

[-] Downcount@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

I dont see the line "3rd party cookie blocking"

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 30 points 9 months ago

should be "prevent sites from tracking". Or they carefully chose that sentence in order to give a "no" to edge and "somewhat" to chrome and opera

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 9 months ago

Firefox uses a built-in domain blocklist for tracking protection, in addition to blocking third party cookies

Although that would not explain why Chrome and Opera pass that at all to begin with IMO. Maybe these browsers enforce their own additional data silos or other deviations from specs when in Private Browsing mode. I know Chrome for example shrinks the storage provision for various JS APIs down to practically nothing when in Incognito mode, which can break things like Teams Web etc when you start sharing files.

Either way though all marketing ever is, is just a selection of carefully chosen words. In this case, browsers too, as there's no Brave there (I'm not a fan of Brave anyway, but worth noting)

[-] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

Precisely why these "feature comparisons" are bogus.

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[-] Cheradenine@sh.itjust.works 15 points 9 months ago

The 'Enforce users choice' is just GPC on by default I believe. Which means nothing since it is still voluntary.

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 6 points 9 months ago

Yeah I’m confused about what tracking Chrome blocks that Chredge does not.

[-] fossphi@lemm.ee 5 points 9 months ago

Does it, though? Or does Microsoft come under the second party label

[-] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

if i enable it, most websites don't load ads at all, including MSN news that's ad-ridden

[-] ares35@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the 'msn news' that most people see is the 'start' page that's baked into the edge browser. ubo does not work on it. for users that actually want that page, i clean up the start page settings and throw a bookmark to msn.com on their toolbar instead so ubo works.

[-] Walop@sopuli.xyz 65 points 8 months ago

I like using Firefox, but it's a bit ironic to have google analytics tracking on the page you declare to protect the users privacy.

[-] joyjoy@lemm.ee 24 points 8 months ago

They never claimed firefox.com was privacy focused. Only your browser.

[-] EvolvedTurtle@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Just doesn't sit well But at least it's open source

[-] elgordio@kbin.social 62 points 9 months ago

Safari needs a tick in “copy urls without site tracking” since ios17 and macOS Sonoma

https://www.macrumors.com/how-to/remove-tracking-information-urls-safari/

[-] Kuro@lemm.ee 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Copy without tracking has been hit or miss for me on Firefox

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago

I just gave up and went back to using ClearURLs add-on. Nothing else seems to work as reliably, not even adding rules to uBO.

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[-] DannyMac@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They need to add a row for ~~"Owned by a foreign superpower"~~"Owned by the Chinese government" and a check for Opera.

[-] svgeesus@mastodon.social 58 points 9 months ago

@DannyMac @Napain They are all owned by foreign powers.
Oh, your definition of "foreign" is non-US?

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 17 points 8 months ago

Everyone knows the world is divided into:

  • United States
  • Everyone Else
[-] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 6 points 8 months ago

How is Mozilla owned by the US government?

[-] grue@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

On one hand, yeah. On the other hand, that could be a point in its favor, depending on your threat model. After all, if you're American, China can't prosecute you for secrets it learns from Opera the way the FBI could prosecute you for secrets it learns from Google.

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[-] CynicusRex@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

Conveniently excluding Vivaldi browser.

[-] lud@lemm.ee 54 points 9 months ago

They included the biggest browsers. They don't need to include every single browser in existence.

[-] Wiz@midwest.social 8 points 9 months ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

I know, right? Where's my entry for lynx, dang it?!

Holy crap, do people still use lynx? (asked in an endearing tone)

[-] lemmesay@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 8 months ago

yes, I do! helps me to quickly search for information without leaving my beloved terminal. in fact, I have added a custom theme to it(Dracula). I've aliased it to open mojeek by default.

if i'm feeling fancy, then only I fire up librewolf.

You are too cool for school if you use lynx!

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[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

And Brave too, which inconveniently beats firefox hands down in independent privacy checks. The mozilla foundation finally needs to step it up.

[-] RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 42 points 9 months ago

That heavily depends. Brave may have better advice/tracker blocking by default, but they send more telemetry. Them being an advertising company also doesn’t speak for them. Brave is a decent browser and on IOS/IPadOS a good option for open source + Adblock, but max privacy would be reconfigured Firefox or Librewolf.

[-] Vincent@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago

Everyone's just trying to strike a balance between protecting privacy and preserving usability - it's not as simple as just enabling the strictest privacy protections, consequences be damned. Case in point: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/brave-to-end-strict-fingerprinting-protection-as-it-breaks-websites/

[-] GregorTacTac@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

I have no idea why you were down voted. These are facts, not opinions

[-] grue@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Fact: Brave is a protection racket wrapped in a crypto scam.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 months ago

Even if it weren't for the crypto, Brave's CEO is one sleazy, untrustworthy motherfucker. I'd never put my privacy in his hands. Just an absolute dogshit reputation.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I figured there was enough to criticize without needing to resort to ad-hominem attacks against the CEO. However, if we're going there, then I'd be remiss not to point out that he's also the motherfucker who inflicted Javascript upon the world when we could've had a decent language like Python or Scheme in the browser instead. Not to downplay the significance of his bigotry, but that's almost the greatest sin of them all!

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[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 8 months ago

It's also yet another Chromium fork which if there's one thing the world does not need more of, it's Chromium forks

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[-] sarmale@lemmy.zip 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Every brother has one of these on their site, and somehow that browser always wins

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[-] Jarix@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Im just over here using firefox since it was still netscape navigator 2.0.

Another update? Okay

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You love it?

I bet you hate Google doing self ads?
Yet this is also just a self ad. And spammy, because it pops open a tab, something browsers are supposed to suppress unless specifically enabled.

[-] lqdrchrd 6 points 9 months ago

Tell me about it. I use nothing but Firefox right now and I hate these intrusive ads. Of course, there’s no built in way to disable it, when it could very easily be a toggle.

[-] Vrtrx@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Honestly I don't see the reason they put that there. I already own Firefox why are you trying to win me over?

[-] sab@kbin.social 28 points 9 months ago

People tend to have multiple browsers. You might have FireFox installed but still not be aware why you should use it over other browsers on your computer.

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[-] tcrash@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

For the newbies

[-] simin@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

be sure to run on top of linux otherwise...

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