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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 35 points 9 months ago

I mean, "your kid will love it but you'll think it sucks" seems like a fair review of a movie who's primary audience is going to be children and the parents they got to drive them to the theater/rental store

[-] ShatnersBassoon@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

They intentionally added a character saying "Oh shit!" purely to bump the rating up to PG, so like legally parents had to accompany their kids to see the toy commercial, so I think it's fair enough in this case.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Hard disagree. I liken it to walking into a steak house and then complaining there is no vegetarian option. A critic isn't suppose to inform me of a movies clearly defined genre.

[-] GiantRobotTRex@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 9 months ago

If they're publishing reviews in a periodical that targets a vegetarian audience, it makes a ton of sense for them to point out which meat-heavy restaurants actually have decent vegetarian options and which don't.

I don't have kids, so I don't really care if kids will like a movie. I want to know if I will like it. Reviews like this are useful for me. As a couple random examples off the top of my head, Zootopia and The Mitchells vs. the Machines are both movies I enjoyed that I would have dismissed as kids movies if it weren't for reviews saying that they're movies that adults will like too.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Even if the periodical targets vegetarian audience it would not be right to use that review to appeal to a more general audience. A steak house should not be graded on its vegetarian options.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

More like informing people who are gonna get dragged into the steak restaurant by their aggressively Texan uncle who's declared war on his own arteries that this is gonna be the kind of asshole steak restaurant that rags on you over not also being carnivorous enough to make a Tyrannosaur blush

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

By 2004 the children were the parents.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

You're supposed to cultivate your critics, get to know them, and use them as barometers. Different critics have different perspectives, goals, and styles.

I think we can all agree that random critiques on the internet don't typically speak to you personally.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I do not look to critics to tell me which obscure 80's cartoons I'm not going to like. I guess some people do. But if you were seeking out 80s cartoons and they told you this one was a miss then they did you wrong.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 3 points 9 months ago

Does rotten tomatoes let you vote on critics so you know who you've liked in the past?

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It does speak to one’s tolerance of other opinions…

[-] watson387@sopuli.xyz 9 points 9 months ago

That movie came out when I was in like 3rd grade and I loved that shit! I watched it last year and I STILL love that shit!

[-] stoly@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

I watched it last weekend and loved it just fine. Was 10 when it came out.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

It's a vibe

[-] GoodandPlenty@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

The scene in the junkyard with the Eric Idle Transformer and Weird Al’s “Dare to be Stupid” is permanently etched in my brain.

[-] BleakBluets@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Bah-weep-Graaaaagnah wheep ni ni bong!

[-] GoodandPlenty@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

“Offer expires while you wait.”

[-] AGD4@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I have nothing but contempt for this review!

[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

way to crap on an 18 year-old animated movie because the animation hasn't aged well.

Their review of Spiderverse in 2037: -same verbiage

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Oof, buddy. Try 38 year old movie.

[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

The review was penned in 2004

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago
[-] bazus1@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

If compared to its contemporaries, It holds up pretty well. The planetoid fly-by in the intro certainly challenged the state of the art at the time. It's more closely related to Ghibli's Castle in the Sky [1986] in style, being produced by Toei Animation, especially if compared to its two box office winners that year, Bluth's An American Tail and Disney's The Great Mouse Detective. Is it trying to sell toys? Yes. Did families have to leave the theaters due to inconsolable children wailing over the death of Optimus Prime? Yes. Does it deserve more than 2.5 stars... Maybe not. Am I glad that it exists and broke ground to provide for the state of animated story telling today? Absolutely.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

If this is what I read in the reviews on rotten tomatoes, I'd be ok with it. I do think inconsolable children isn't as much a misstep but more of a miscalculation. The fact that children would be upset that their favorite character dies just shows the actual investment kids had in the transformer universe. Especially when you consider Transofmers wasn't setting the stage for Prime to die.

Transformers was a fun simple idea. It was very successful in what it was trying to do. Even if it was just to sell toys, which, I think we can all agree, toys are great.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

It's literally a commercial to sell toys (as well as all the other 80s toy shows). While I might love the film, it doesn't detract from that fact.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Right, but to judge it by any other standard is insanity!

[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 4 points 9 months ago

Ya, but the soundtrack is something everyone can enjoy!

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 4 points 9 months ago

I honestly can't figure out what you think is wrong with critic reviews based on this.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

For example, one review writes, "really good and kind of underrated." Then proceeds to give it a 7/10.

One reviewer informs potential viewers that the movie intended for children isn't intented for adults.

One critic says, "The nostalgists and fanboys are welcome to this one." Then gives a 1/4. Which isn't really a review it's just him insulting the fan base.

One critic calls it a "90-minute television episode." When in fact it is a movie to complement a television series.

So, if this is all kosher with you then I guess you're just better then anyone who might appreciate the big swings and true to genre themes that this movie is all about.

[-] MeatsOfRage@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

You gotta relax my man, reviews are subjective and scores don't matter. Nobody is going to rotten tomatoes to decide if they're going to watch Transformers 1986, they've already decided. Find some reviewers who align with your taste and follow their recommendations, that's why critics exist in the first place.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I agree. I just think these critics do the movie dirty for no good reason.

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

So your problem with critic reviews is they don't hold your opinion about Transformers? I don't find any of the takes particularly vapid. They actually find the movie vapid.

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

If you don't see that these reviews are a mockery to critics with real insight, I can't help you. I would expect the review of a critic to exceed the nuance an ordinary audience member could provide.

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