What are your thoughts on the Arc browser? (lemmy.world)

submitted 2 years ago by fahad@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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As the title suggests. I want community opinions on the Arc browser.

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[-] IanAtCambio@lemm.ee 89 points 2 years ago

You HAVE to make an account and sign on when you first open it. On a privacy focused sub, that should be an instant DQ

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 2 years ago

DQ?

[-] IanAtCambio@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Disqualification

[-] guiguinofake@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Dairy Queen. Their ice cream is kinda ass compared to local stuff.

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 2 years ago

Well that's something different

[-] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Not really. DQ is a fairly large chain.

[-] library_napper@monyet.cc 1 points 2 years ago

woosh

[-] TealNinjaLlama@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago

Disqualification

[-] Lodra@programming.dev 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

With chromium being poisoned last year and Mozilla trying to diversify away from Firefox, I’m starting to wonder what browser I should be using in the near future. So I’d really like to hear some opinions on arc browser!

EDIT: Aaand it’s chromium

[-] SnotFlickerman 61 points 2 years ago

Arc is Chromium based. In other words, you're still using Chrome/Chromium.

Firefox and Safari are the only two browsers (seemingly) left on the market with their own rendering engines. (Gecko and WebKit respectively)

So while things are fucking bad at Mozilla, it's important to try to get people to use Firefox so market share will increase enough that Mozilla won't want to diversify away from Firefox. I know that's living on hopes and dreams, but that's better than just rolling over and letting Google take over the modern world-wide web.

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 years ago

You forgot about epiphany! /s

[-] scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

That’s WebKit… so basically Safari lol

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 11 points 2 years ago

Use curl like a chad

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 years ago

Lynx is where it's at.

[-] SomeBoyo@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

Only if you use it in emacs.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://privacytests.org/

PS for all the haters of open source facts : Even librewolf references this site for browser testing.

https://librewolf.net/docs/testing/

[+] LWD@lemm.ee 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] dukethorion@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

Are you saying the information presented is somehow incorrect?

[+] LWD@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

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[-] dukethorion@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Well, there's a good chance that most people who present technical information publicly are probably involved somewhere in the tech space. Pretty sure the owner of that site also has a disclaimer stating that he in fact works for Brave.

More directly, is the information on that website inaccurate? Could any other person create a similar website with the same information? Has anyone?

True facts don't change based on who presents them. Every time I see this "oh don't trust the Brave employee" it's usually someone who is mad that FF isn't the best in whatever category.

[-] Samueru@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Every time I see this “oh don’t trust the Brave employee” it’s usually someone who is mad that FF isn’t the best in whatever category.

You just nailed it lmao.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Well, first, let's stay on the topic of fact versus your possible issue of possible conflict.

K thx bye.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago

The source code is freely available for you to run all the tests yourself. On any browser you like.

Brave sucks. Peter Thiel can suck the corn out of my shit.

But, the tests and results are still accurate. *based on fresh install and no config changes. (FF can be hardened well beyond what's shown)

As you can see in the results tor/mull/mullvad/librewolf are basically the best for all around privacy and security.

They're all based on FF.

Ps: The guy was doing this long before he went to work at brave. (Maybe that's why they hired him? Hmmm)

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

They're saying they don't understand open source at all. They're saying someone must stop the highly regarded and useful personal project they've been working on for years prior to being hired by evil corp (it is because Peter Thiel). They're saying they don't know how to read the results of the tests. Etc.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

And yet the results are still fact and brave still isn't the best.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 years ago

chromium being poisoned last year

Can you please expand on that? I don't use chromium except when I have compat tests to run but still curious.

[-] Lodra@programming.dev 11 points 2 years ago

Here’s a random article on the topic to get you started.

Basically Google is destroying anonymous web browsing by embedding finger printing in chromium. Certain trusted servers will track your identity and report whether or not it trusts you.

It’s actually very similar to how Single Sign On and identity providers work. Except you aren’t choosing to use it with a “login with Facebook” or similar button. It’s forced on you by the browser

[-] Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 years ago

This article only mentions Chrome, not Chromium. So I looked it up and found this:
"Web Environment Integrity (WEI) is an abandoned API proposal previously under development for Google Chrome.[1] A Web Environment Integrity prototype existed in Chromium,[2][3] but was removed in November 2023 after extensive criticism by many tech groups.[4]"

[-] Lodra@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

Oh really??? I wonder if there’s hope for chrome after all. Though I’m still sticking with Firefox 🙂

[-] hellfire103@sopuli.xyz 33 points 2 years ago

Proprietary
Based on Chromium
Requires an account to use

Instant nope from me!

[-] KY13KR385@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

I think Arc is a very interesting browser. I’ve tried using it on and off, but I have read a few blogs/posts that suggest it’s not very privacy forward. One of my biggest pet peeves with it is that it’s built on Chromium, and it requires you to have an account/login. Here’s a great privacy review, my apologies if you’ve seen it already: https://adam.kostarelas.com/blog/arc-browser-privacy-check/

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