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TikTok executive admits Australian users’ data accessed by employees in China (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] OptimsticDolphin@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Didn’t they explicitly say a while ago that they didn’t do this?

[-] vlad76@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] OptimsticDolphin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

If a company is doing that though that seems like it could be quite a major issue though

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

It's not a company.

It's a CCP company.

Same rules do not apply.

[-] wimpysocks@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It’s exactly the same as facebook but “big scary Gyna and ce ce pee”

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

As clever as you think you're being, it is an important difference.

Mostly because in the US you can choose not to use it, in china choosing not to use it affects your social credit score, and whether you can buy a house or ride the bus.

Slight difference in potential consequences for benign behavior.

[-] jmp242@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 year ago

I don't know if the US is that far ahead here - we have the regular credit score which is used for all sorts of stuff it really ought't be. And it's proprietary, so honestly who knows what goes into it. We just get hidden companies rather than the government - and often the government hides behind the companies so they don't have to do pesky things like get a warrant. I'm not sure which is better.

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I agree it's 6 versus a half dozen

But the layer of obscurity at least gives the illusion they aren't supposed to abuse it so much, which helps massively during breaches or trying to get your data or have it deleted.

I doubt any of that is even possible in china (i have no citation for this)

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

in china choosing not to use it affects your social credit score, and whether you can buy a house or ride the bus.

Do you have any source that says that using TikTok is mandatory in China, or that not using it does what you're asserting?

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

The social credit score is mandatory, and what you watch on it is absolutely used to adjust your credit score.

So no, i don't have a direct source that says "you must use this app or your credit score goes down", i have a reasonable informed idea that it probably does, based on china's current treatment of it's citizens.

Why, do you happen to a single or any even tangentially related source pretending it doesn't?

[-] 133arc585@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No of course you can't opt out of the social credit score.

what you watch on it is absolutely used to adjust your credit score.

And yet another bold claim that you are even being so bold as to say is absolutely true. Do you have evidence for this one, either?

I'm asking you to defend your claim that not using TikTok specifically affects your social credit score.

So no, i don’t have a direct source that says “you must use this app or your credit score goes down”, i have a reasonable informed idea that it probably does, based on china’s current treatment of it’s citizens.

This absolutely doesn't follow. Can you elaborate on your logic here? There is no obvious line of reasoning from "china's current treatment of its citizens" to "TikTok is mandatory". Your imagination is not evidence of something.

Why, do you happen to a single or any even tangentially related source pretending it doesn’t?

I'm not the one asserting that failure to use TikTok negatively affects your social credit score; no, I can't find a source that explicitly states "not using TikTok doesn't affect your social credit score", because that's not how this works. You make a positive assertion you provide evidence to back that up.

[-] wimpysocks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

The social credit score is mandatory, and what you watch on it is absolutely used to adjust your credit score.

So no, i don't have a direct source that says "you must use this app or your credit score goes down", i have a reasonable informed idea that it probably does, based on china's current treatment of it's citizens.

So basically you’re saying you have a hunch? What a bunch of nonsense.

Can you prove that Iraq doesn’t have weapons of mass destruction?

[-] OptimsticDolphin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Why do we keep letting them operate outside of china then?

[-] SpezCanLigmaBalls@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I’m pretty sure they’ve said this multiple times throughout the years and then everytime theres a story it did happen

[-] RandoCalrandian@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Almost as if... because there weren't consequences the first time they blatantly lied to people's faces... they just continued to do so, repeatedly.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it, right?

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

China gets every metric possible from every single device in the world that uses tik tok. If you don't think so... Pull your head out of your ass.

[-] Fapper_McFapper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Pull your head out of your ass.

But that’s where my phone is.

[-] 7802403@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

People don't even have to be using TikTok itself, I play Marvel Snap! and it tries to connect to TikTok & Bytedance servers. Anything owned by Bytedance, they will get your info.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Essentially any and all phones send info to someone. It's remarkable when people talk about how secure their iPhone is. Zero clue that they still have no privacy.

[-] hardypart@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago

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