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[-] Bassman1805@lemmy.world 135 points 8 months ago

My brother in Christ YOU ARE THE MEDIA

[-] mozz@mbin.grits.dev 64 points 8 months ago

... which is why he's making it a story, linking to the videos, explaining why it's newsworthy, and then delving into the deeper topic of why a particular segment of right-wing-aligned media is steadily taking over in this country and where it might go if not unchecked, which is the much bigger and more important story beyond just the fact that Trump is a moron sometimes.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

The media has been making it a story since the first election. Every single one of his weird ass word salad moments was nation wide news. We just sit around and pretend it was covered up because fox news didn't talk about it.

[-] Birdie@thelemmy.club 19 points 8 months ago

My MIL watches Newsmax now, since Trump said Fox was liberal media.

She hasn't heard of a single gaffe Trump has made in his rallies. Hasn't heard of how he said Biden would start WWII, hasn't heard he said he ran against Obama in 2016, hasn't heard about how he accused Nicki Haley of refusing his offer to send 10,000 officers to the Capitol on Jan 6. No reports on how his speeches decend into word salad when he looks away from the teleprompter.

She HAS heard that Biden is doing nothing about the border, but not about Republicans refusing to pass Biden's border bill. She believes Biden is a fascist leading the country into communism, that Trump is a godly man, etc etc etc.

It's so hard to talk with her now. She used to be a far left liberal, burned her bra in the 60s, pushed for women's rights. Then she started watching Fox "News" and got brainwashed.

Some media may be making his idiocy/dementia/whateverthehelliswrongwithhim news, but a large chunk of the country doesn't ever see it.

Media who do report this stuff is preaching to the choir.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I say this in a bunch of threads almost every single day

WE HAVE A GIGANTIC PROPAGANDA PROBLEM.

It's absolutely flabbergasting that we as a society have just accepted that "everyone" lies to us all the time, that no media can be trusted (except for "my guy") and that for some reason there's nothing we should do about it.

I rarely see conversations about what we can and should do about our media. I'd love to see some actual things we can do from those intelligent enough or with the correct expertise... I have no idea myself as all I know is we protect the rights for a free press and that pretty much handcuffs us, but it's also important to have...

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago

We do. But it's not just America's perceived far right. It is even many in what America calls the left as well. That's why so much more insidious than people give it credit for.

Yes, Fox News, newsmax, oann are some of the worst of the worst. But every single corporate, for-profits news medium also belongs on that list of propaganda and misinformation. All television, all radio, all print that isn't publicly owned and funded. 100% spreads propaganda.

Even many that are publicly funded are still succeptible. Because the people with the loudest voice and the most resources to spare. Are the ones stealing from us.

Even as children, what we are taught of American history is a complete whitewashing, with a veneer of empty hero worship. And I don't just mean the founding. I mean even things that occurred with in 10 to 20 years of when they're being taught. Are already heavily sanitized and controlled.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 2 points 8 months ago

100% agreed. The right is currently more dangerous but all corporate media is definitely propaganda meant to manipulate in one way or another. :(

[-] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 6 points 8 months ago

Yes, the problem is that this information doesn't seem to be making it to half the nation.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

It still gets to them. They call it fake news.

[-] Ozymati@lemmy.nz 3 points 8 months ago

My sister in Satan, unfortunately we are not the media who get listened to.

[-] KazuyaDarklight@lemmy.world 51 points 8 months ago

Remember the rule, if the article title is a question, the answer is most likely "No".

[-] PeepinGoodArgs@reddthat.com 47 points 8 months ago

You mean the dictatorship-friendly media? Will they make it a story that the baby dictator is dying?

...no, no they won't.

[-] xenomor@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

Adderall abuse, untreated syphilis, or just advanced age?

[-] superduperenigma@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

They're not mutually exclusive.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 11 points 8 months ago

They call it Three Stooges Syndrome

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago
[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 17 points 8 months ago

Ask Rupert Murdoch. He owns most of the media companies and subsidiaries.

[-] kimjongunderdog@kbin.social 13 points 8 months ago

So I guess the answer is yes, the media made it a story by writing this very story.

[-] downhomechunk@midwest.social 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, but this is fake news. They didn't mention hunter biden's laptop. Not even once.

/s

[-] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Considering the overload of articles about how Biden is too old, they ought to, if they want to be (unironically) fair and balanced.

[-] YurkshireLad@lemmy.ca 6 points 8 months ago

Did he accidentally pick the wrong name or did he purposefully use Haley’s, because he knows fans won’t care it’s fiction and will start believing it as truth?

[-] neptune@dmv.social 14 points 8 months ago

He's always taken both sides of every issue so that if you cherry pick a couple quotes of his, he always seems like he's right.

[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

A choice between a guy who's going to make the world worse and a guy who's going to make the country worse...

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

No, this is the choice between literal fascism and just another mediocre democrat leader. You are an absolute fool if you think it's a difficult choice

[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

The trick that has been played on us to create opinions like the one you responded to is incredibly impressive and depressing.

[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 2 points 8 months ago

Do you think what's going on in Palestine would be happening under Trump? It's a huge what if, but I don't think so.
Trump's a fascist. But you're in denial if you think the US government hasn't always been fascist. Biden's just not an accelerationist.
As a US neighbor, I'd take Biden any day of the week, but would Yemeni people think the same? That's all I'm saying

[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

What method can you use to determine your "what if" scenario is true or not?

Also "Trump is a fascist but so are these other guys" is not a way to convince antifascists that Trump is the best choice.

[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Woah wtf. Why do you think I'm trying to say he's the best choice?

[-] grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

So who do you suggest a person votes for in this situation? The real world situation of Biden v Trump.

Unless one dies or has a stroke (very likely for Trump, somewhat likely for Biden) they are the options.

For the record, if Trump did have a stroke and had to avoid public appearances, his popularity would almost certainly go up, but leave that aside for now.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 8 months ago

Do you think what’s going on in Palestine would be happening under Trump?

No, I think it would be unspeakably worse. I'm not sure how anyone could reasonably think it would be BETTER with Trump.

[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Trump was the first US president I can remember that didn't start a new war.

People here have some crazy blinders on.
Also, I've got trans friends and family and care about the environment. I prefer Biden

[-] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Trump moved the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem to egg on Hamas, you're delusional if you think the situation in Palestine would actually be better.

He also escalated tensions with Iran and assassinated one of their generals and massively increased stone strikes compared to Obama. We came damn close to war under Trump.

Meanwhile what war did Biden start? The US didn't invade Ukraine or Palestine.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think you mean make the country and the world worse. Because Trump is really good at both of those.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 3 points 8 months ago
[-] Jaytreeman@kbin.social 1 points 8 months ago

Biden is good for the country, but his foreign policy is horrible.
Trump is bad for the country, but he's such a wild card that he's got a stabilizing presence internally

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

Even if some of Biden's foreign policy smells, I'd rather have him at it than whatever the fuck Trump thought he was doing going around and stroking his ego over the other heads of state.

A wild card is a bullshit term for getting in bed with the Russians and pissing on it both literally and figuratively. Which, btw, is an oxymoron to pair it with "stability". We see now how he got played and/or paid.

[-] metallic_substance@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Oh, I get it. You're just a fucking moron.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Stabilizing? Lol

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