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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 152 points 2 years ago
[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

Socialism by definition is not anti establishment. It's anti current establishment but the philosophy is geared towards a bigger government "establishment".

[-] migo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 62 points 2 years ago

No, it is not. Socialism does not mean statism. Please feel free to read up on libertarian socialism, Anarcho syndicalism or even eco socialism. The Greens/EFA in europe lean towards libertarian socialism.

[-] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 2 years ago

Libertarian socialist here: Say it again for the people at the back.

[-] toasteecup@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I was 100% not aware if libertarian socialism. Definitely something to learn about. Thank you

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

I'm pretty sure that's the difference between anti establishing and anti government. the "establishment" is the established power structure. technically fascists ARE anti establishment in most places. and that's a very good thing.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 10 points 2 years ago

Are they tho

Republicans are going mask off, Italy is run by fascists again, AfD is at 20%, Putin is invading neighbors and bankrolling white supremacists world wide, Israel's engaging in open genocide, their neighbors wish they could do the same, the second largest party in Sweden was founded by Neo-Nazis...

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[-] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 115 points 2 years ago

I think that's the difference: Pirate Bay and Silkroad knew they were inherently anti-establishment, but it seems to me that Parler and Gab think of themselves as "alternative establishment" or something.

Pirate Bay was never trying to compete with Netflix or Steam-- it's conceptually very different. But Parler very much wants (wanted?) to just be Twitter but with right-wing politics.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

Parler and gab just want to be mask-off racist twitter/facebook. Nothing anti-establishment there at all.

Pirate Bay and Silk Road were knowingly breaking the law in nearly every nation on earth and trying to avoid capture doing so, both failed to do so by various degrees. This is anti-establishment as they are flagrantly disobeying copyright and narcotics laws at these two sites.

Pirate Bay is still operational, just not by the original owner. I don’t know about Silk Road as I have no interest in drugs

[-] notasandwich1948@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

pretty sure silk road is gone irrc. I could be thinking of something else tho.

[-] Hexasphertate@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 years ago

Silk road is long gone but there are a plethora of other similar markets. Just like any other service in demand when one gets shutdown three more pop up in it's place.

[-] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 25 points 2 years ago

That’s a great distinction, I’m gonna start stealing that.

Some people aren’t anti establishment, they are anti-not-my-establishment. You can’t call yourself anti establishment if you just don’t like the current one.

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[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

It's simpler than that: fascists lie.

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[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 94 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Those fucks who run Parler aren’t anti-establishment, quite the opposite, they are boot licking fascists.

[-] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 13 points 2 years ago

“Stealing I can accept, but having an opinion that’s different from my own is where I draw the line.”

[-] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 54 points 2 years ago
  1. Piracy isn't stealing, primarily since the victim still has the pirated goods and can continue to sell them, but doubly so since people who pay for those goods legitimately don't own them and are at the complete mercy of the company to continue to access them. History is rife with examples of companies removing access to digitally paid for goods with no explanation or recourse. Look at the recent PlayStation fiasco, or Warner Brothers cancelling Infinity Train and Inside Job (and pulling the completed seasons from streaming services) because they wanted a tax write-off.
  2. Questioning the validity of science and half the global population's worth of empirical evidence and endangering oneself and others purely to be contrarian, and, more importantly, continuing to support someone who calls immigrants vermin and quotes Mussolini in his campaign speeches goes beyond "having a different opinion"
[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Warner Brothers cancelling Infinity Train and Inside Job (and pulling the completed seasons from streaming services) because they wanted a tax write-off.

WHAT THE FUCK, as if the cancellation wasn't bad enough, I only now learned they removed Infinity Train from streaming. Fuck you WB

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 57 points 2 years ago

My dad always said "Don't trust a man in a suit telling you who's wrong" but then again he fell in line with Trump when he grew old.

Christ, if that happens to me, kill me.

[-] hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 years ago

Don't worry, he did it so you won't get a chance to.

[-] 1stTime4MeInMCU@mander.xyz 39 points 2 years ago

I demand the government force this private company to provide me free speech.

[-] drathvedro@lemm.ee 33 points 2 years ago

I would advice against hosting servers in Russia, though. Police raids on datacenters, where they literally rip servers out from the racks, are, unfortunately, a common occurence.

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[-] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 28 points 2 years ago

Fascists aren't anti establishment. Their whole thing is doing even worse things to preserve capitalism when it enters crisis.

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

We are on the anti establishment platform my guy

[-] robocall@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

I'm not a dev. What's a mirror? Sorry for being uncool.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 35 points 2 years ago

Basically a copy of the infrastructure, so that you can switch over, if the first/main instance is lost (by a government, for example).

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Hate when the government loses my servers :(

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 years ago

Literally a server standing by and doing the same thing as the other by being a backup in case the 1st gets taken down.

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[-] kusukasaka281@lemmy.id 13 points 2 years ago

Gab has their own server infrastructure.

[-] FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

Apparently they’re working on Christian AI too lol

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