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Senator’s bid to make US military support conditional on whether Israel is violating human rights in Gaza fails by 72 votes to 11

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 97 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Sanders is proof the US is working on a rigged system

he has had the people's interest at heart since he first started his political career in the 60s and not just the US citizens

[-] ExfilBravo@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

He will inspire a group of young people that will actually make the change when boomers die. So there's that.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

The two party thing has been going for 150 years. The top will not ever allow change in the regime.

Sanders almost won in 2016 but the DNC actively conspired against him to run Hillary. The Democrats will rather lose than allow the system to change.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

You, in another comment chain, are advocating for voting third party and advocating against grassroots change like Unionization and winning local elections. If you realize the top will never ever allow change in the regime, then why are you advocating against bottom-up pressure, and advocating for knowingly spoiling your vote?

[-] Eyelessoozeguy@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Not the one concerned, but the two party system used to include the wigs. One party can get dismantled and I think it would only happen with bottom up pressure, and grass roots.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 9 months ago

Yep, that's my point entirely. With the current two party system, voting third party is purely a spoiler vote without mass grassroots pressure like Unionization and winning local elections. They've argued against building up that bottom-up pressure as pointless, and instead advocated for voting third party, getting the order entirely wrong.

With the current dem/rep split, voting Democrat is what leftists should do purely as loss prevention. It's only with genuine outside, bottom-up pressure that third party could ever be viable.

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[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

The Democrats will rather lose than allow the system to change.

Prescient. I don’t think many centrist have realized that yet.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 79 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Anyone got a list of who supported it?

Edit: so far I found that it was Sanders (duh), Rand Paul, and 9 democrats. Not sure who

Edit 2: per https://www.businessinsider.com/which-senators-voted-bernie-sanders-resolution-israel-human-rights-violations-2024-1?amp

Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky

Democratic Sen. Martin Heinrich of New Mexico

Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon

Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont

Democratic Sen. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland

Democratic Sen. Ed Markey of Massachusetts

Democratic Sen. Laphonza Butler of California

Democratic Sen. Ben Ray Lujan of New Mexico

Democratic Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii

Democratic Sen. Peter Welch of Vermont

Democratic Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Anyone got a list of who abstained? I want to do the math so I know how large the Senate Genocide Caucus is.

EDIT: I was trying to do math and kept overlooking how the article said that it was 72-11, which would mean 17 abstaining or absent. The Senate Genocide Caucus is 72 members wide.

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 11 points 9 months ago

Rand Paul accidentally stumbles into the correct opinion.

[-] TrippyFocus@lemmy.ml 64 points 9 months ago

Voting List for Anyone Interested

Fuck everyone that continues to support this genocide.

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

Important to note that this is a motion to table - so the "Yea" vote means they disagree with Bernie's resolution.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

39 Democrat senators (40 if you count Sinema) and 32 Republican senators.

I'd also like to remind people that 44 Democrats and 36 Republican senators voted to block the rail strike.

Procorporate trash. All of them. Fuck Joe Biden.

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[-] DuckOverload@lemmy.world 48 points 9 months ago

Bernie Sanders is obviously a raging anti-Semite.

[-] BreadstickNinja@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

The ADL just declared that Jewish Voice for Peace are antisemitic so Bernie probably isn't far behind.

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[-] SpiceyDejarik@lemm.ee 47 points 9 months ago

The measure was a first-of-its-kind tapping into a decades-old law that would require the US state department to, within 30 days, produce a report on whether the Israeli war effort in Gaza is violating human rights and international accords. If the administration failed to do so, US military aid to Israel, long assured without question, could be quickly halted.

Those senators must be pretty confident that a report would find human rights violations. Why would they oppose it otherwise?

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 43 points 9 months ago

if only democrats actually stood for what they say they stand for

we could of had eight years of bernie instead of eight years of further decline with trump and biden

[-] cupcakezealot 29 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

if you think israel didn't do anything wrong, why oppose an investigation?

(also milosevic did the same thing in the 90s and was prosecuted for it by the icc - the us supported that then)

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 28 points 9 months ago

Sigh, the US government never fails to disappoint.

[-] agitatedpotato@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

During the Sheikh Jarrah incident I contacted everyone who politically represents me and told them to re-evaluate how freely they fund Isreal, they all gave me lots of lip service telling me they will consider it when opportunities arise and every last one of them voted against this. I don't think I've ever in my life been accurately represented politically on a federal level, and the only reason that's not true locally is because I've testified to local government committees on things that actually made it to the state house floor.

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[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

Doesn’t look like there are many scruples left in DC.

[-] Riccosuave@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

There weren't any in the first place.

[-] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago

This is the stupidest timeline.

[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm supposed to believe the Dems that voted against this also care about saving democracy? They don't even care about basic human rights. We're going full speed into the worst timeline.

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 17 points 9 months ago
[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The republicans voted against it because it's from him, and the democrats voted against it because they're courting the right.

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[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

as is tradit

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[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Warren also voted with Sanders.

[-] Rapidcreek@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Well, at least it was the right method. They didn't hide behind Biden.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 14 points 9 months ago

It sometimes feels like Bernie Sanders is the only American leader with an actual heart.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 9 points 9 months ago

I knew he was "my guy" when I finally realized who he was in 2016. There was a time I watched a lot of documentaries, and every time this scraggly haired old dude was shown in some random clip of Congress doing their thing in relation to the documentary, he was always on the right side of the argument. So I see Bernie Sanders running and I said "oh shit, it's that guy!"

No wonder the media demonizes him...

[-] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Proud of my Senator, Martin Heinrich. He did the right thing today.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Now there's two fascist parties...

[-] ooli@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Isnt that a proof that Israel dont respect human rights?

[-] Guy_Fieris_Hair@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

It is more proof that the US doesn't give a shit.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

It's more proof that the US does give a shit, and that the US prefers that human rights not be respected.

[-] dan42O@infosec.pub 8 points 9 months ago

Is this an active coup that’s been playing out since 60s or when ever this shadowy government does? Is this the same thing like how one president get 1 free murder, no questions asked but like on large scales?

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