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submitted 2 years ago by Showervagina@lemmy.ml to c/chat@beehaw.org

I've never been sentimental about a social media site but it's sad for me to see reddit so clearly killing itself. Pushshift is already banned and Apollo is soon to follow. Reddit will either pivot fully to a mainstream audience or die out. It's just sad for me to see it doing it to itself.

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[-] sprocket@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Yeah for sure. I was on reddit for 13 years, there were users I recognised by name, people I was friendly with, people I'd have intense debates with, many, many, many subreddits I loved.

But nothing lasts forever, and this place seems nice so here's to new beginnings 🍻

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[-] donio@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago

It kinda feels like this whole mess is giving me permission to leave. Like when you know that you are in an unhealthy relationship but don't know how to get out of it and suddenly your partner says that maybe you should start seeing other people.

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[-] RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mourn what it was, yes.

There was a recent comment I read about how it's become this incredible resource for the most obscure tech issues and they were reluctant to delete their posts and accounts because they'd receive random messages of thanks years after a tech resource post was made.

And it's true. Reddit has become an invaluable resource for these kinds of things. Not only that, but it's one of the few places that exists on the web where cohesive and coherent discussions even exist. It was always the community and discussion that made reddit great and they want to turn it into yet another swipebait infested serotonin sponge. I sincerely hope lemmy can take its place, but there are going to be some major growing pains if we get big influx of "redfugees."

It almost makes me think that when something becomes such an enormous and invaluable public resource, there should be a legal compulsion to archive it before doing anything that will compromise its accessibility.___

[-] luckless@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago

Oddly enough I feel like I'm going to miss the UX from boost more than the subreddits themselves. Even the better ones have so much negativity in the comment sections that there's no point in participating in the conversations, even with the wealth of content compared to Lemmy currently.

Looking forward to the growth from Lemmy apps such as Jerboa and Mlem.

[-] howmanytacos@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Also a boost user. Also mourning the UX it delivered more than the subreddits.

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[-] klemptor@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 years ago

Honestly, yeah. Reddit has been part of my daily routine for 12 years now. Sure, a lot of the content is junk food for the brain, and reddit has changed a lot during that time, but I've also learned a lot of cool things and had a lot of interesting conversations there. Lemmy looks promising, but it's still very nascent. The userbase is small, it's missing a lot of the niche communities that you can find on reddit, and the tech is glitchy. Overall it feels a lot more like tinier than reddit (which duh, of course it does).

Reddit is also a bad habit that I've wanted to reduce for a while now, so maybe this is the shove I needed.

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[-] markipol@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago

I'm really fucking pissed because reddit is the only forum for a lot of topics. Realistically, I can't say I'm going to stop using it totally. Like, you can clearly see it is at risk of a tumblr-esque descent. The CEO has repeatedly said they are "fighting" for nsfw content to remain, but I trust 0% of what that guy says considering he's repeatedly lied, slandered people and freely admits to just trying to get profitable as soon as possible (see latest ama, for the IPO so he can cash out, presumably). If this really is a Tumblr level decline which it remains to be seen if it is, they'll be in desperate need of more VC cash so porn is as good as gone.

Anyways, I hope some communities start coming over. The blackout is a good protest, but meaningless if there's no actual action apart from that. Regarding the blackout, I don't even really give a shit about "saving" Reddit anymore, as they've made it very clear they are beyond saving. I just want the same experience with the same level of community somewhere else (fuck capitalism and centralization though)

[-] SammichParade@vlemmy.net 9 points 2 years ago

I agree with you about the communities and forums. Those take years to develop, even with promising options like Lemmy. Reddit became so popular there was a niche community for literally anything you can imagine. I hope the enthusiasm carries over and develops elsewhere/here.

[-] patchymoose@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

I really hope that Reddit never becomes profitable despite all of their best efforts--at least as long as Steve is running it. He is so unprofessional and does not deserve to cash in. I hope he loses money slowly but surely due to his incompetent decisions, just as Lowtax did at SomethingAwful.

[-] koopacha@beehaw.org 14 points 2 years ago

Reddit was a part of my life for almost 11 years. I am 22 and some of my first posts on Reddit were short stories I had written and posted to r/movies for opinions on whether they would be good as full length films… lol Back then it felt so tight knit and close, like a community. It felt like you had to have some savviness for tech and computers to use it, and really it was like a home to me. A place where I could talk about the weird niche things that i found interesting, and find people like me. What Reddit has become is so far from that, it might as well be twitter or something. Just a billion people all throwing shit around, no community, no friendships, just posts with comments. The magic died and it is sad. This site seems like it might recapture some of what I loved about early Reddit, though. I hope

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[-] WhoRoger@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Yea kinda. I think Reddit in general is quite amazing. People harp about toxic social media etc, but there's something truly great about being able to find people of common interests from all around the world.

In general... This is what internet was supposed to be, right.

Plus nobody forces you to deanonymyze yourself. With that comes some pretty cool culture.

Although admittedly I've noticed the mood on the whole site being more sour in the past months to a year... But maybe that's me more than anything.

It's a shame such a model is apparently not sustainable as a business. Maybe it's true that there should be public services fulfilling this purpose.

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[-] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

Reddit isn't so much killing itself as rather being killed for money.

This is why I hate capitalism. It ruins everything, including the planet and the future.

Pity we can't have a social media site that's a public service!

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[-] cark@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago

I feel like reddit dying could be a positive thing for me. For years now I have felt the negative influence that its toxic environment - fueled by impersonal, discordant interactions - had on me. Not to mention the complete destruction of my ability to concentrate caused by the micro dopamine hit targeting of social media UX. I'm hoping that moving to a smaller platform will help with some of that pervasive anger I feel as a result of constant reddit usage.

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[-] regex@beehaw.org 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I've been using Reddit since around mid-2009 (pre-Digg exodus). In my honest opinion, the signs of decline on Reddit have been bubbling for a while, and that's forgoing any consideration of operational/executive decisions that have been made along the way.

Don't get me wrong, Reddit even in 2009 wasn't a consistent bastion of quality, productive, insightful discussion, and a good amount of posts on the frontpage on a given day were memes (not to say those are inherently "bad" posts; peak f7u12 anyone?). But the discussions that were had were, for the most part, friendly and/or constructive in some meaningful way. Over the years though, as the userbase grew and the site became increasingly "mainstream," I noticed there was an uptick of either one or both of two things: 1) low effort posts/comments and 2) sheer vitriol in discussions.

When you combine those two things, you get what -- in my opinion -- is a social media platform with high levels of "engagement" that VCs/execs love to tout and leverage (see Reddit's recent IPO ambitions), but ultimately, a platform that's merely a shell of what it once used to be.

As that happened, I found myself using Reddit less as a "fun" social media platform and more as a tool -- using it for discussions and/or information about niche hobbies, interests, news topics, etc. While the dominance of forums in that area may have been overtaken by subreddits over the years, I don't think there was anything particularly unique about what Reddit as a platform was doing to help these sort of communities exist, and I really doubt that Reddit will be the last place these communities can thrive.

[-] 1hitsong@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 years ago

Honestly, I feel disappointment. What reddit was, or at least how I saw it, is not what was on display for the past few weeks.

But my excitement for new things is awesome! I miss the days of stumbling across new, exciting, and weird sites instead of 1 all powerful site. The feeling of starting something anew is fun, and I'm looking forward to learning how to use and defining what this site is with y'all.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago

I was part of the Digg migration. I'm part of the Reddit migration. I'll be part of the next migration.

The impermanence of life.

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[-] Ultra980@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I'm not really "mourning" it, but I had a weird feeling, like the end of a great book (series) or movie, like I wish it would have continued more.

Hiwever after switching to lemmy, the community here seems way more active and friendly, and even though there are less overall users, I get more interaction with my posts and comments, maybe also because they aren't drowned in a sea of other comments.

[-] FeralGibberling@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

I have the same feeling - I feel welcome here even though I spent years on Reddit lurking. I'm not mourning Reddit however as I've watched its slow decline over the years. Here's to many happy years on Lemmy!

[-] Homo_Stupidus@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Reddit has been my internet home since 2012. It's surreal and depressing to see it so far gone. Still unsure where I will go next, but lemmy feels familiar at least.

[-] Skooshjones@vlemmy.net 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't mourn Reddit, but I am sad that it's another example of the commoditization and corporatization of the modern internet.

Hopefully federated networks, P2P protocols, and FOSS software/frameworks are able to provide a robust and healthy web going forward into the future. The era of the free general internet is over, has probably been for a long time honestly. Now if massive companies want to stay afloat in that space, they will need to make huge profits. Everything as you are seeing nowadays, is being monetized and centralized.

Maybe this truly is late stage Capitalism and the collapse of it all is on the horizon, idk. But as long as I have an internet connection and things I am interested in doing on there, I will be trying to resist the corpos as long as I can.

Long live the free and open internet!

(PS, power to the users, and I can and do contribute to the products and services I use from these wonderful people in our communities <3)

[-] PredictiveTextNames@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

It almost doesn't even feel real. Like, in a few weeks I won't be using reddit almost at all anymore since RiF will be gone. And yet, I'm still browsing Reddit just as much right now as ever and seeing almost no difference other than salty posts about the API changes on a few subs.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 7 points 2 years ago

I wonder if that's how the people in disaster movies feel when they just stand there, watching the tidal wave/asteroid/sharknado heading their way.

[-] belated_frog_pants@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

I'm mourning the communities i found, but not reddit itself. Spez has been a turd forever. I saw him at a tech inclusion conf like 6-7 years ago and they knew then he was such a shit they didn't even allow questions from the audience. He said nothing useful and basically said "we keep the donald because both sides" and not so subtly that they keep everyone for add views.

He sucks ass and is only concerned about IPO and will likely just change the r/all to whatever is left and declare the IPO a victory as users bleed away.

Hoping to find more of my old communities around lemmy with hopefully less bigots.

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[-] 42triangles@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't mourn it, but I do already miss it. Because as terrible of a place as it can be, it has the huge advantage of being, well, huge.

So even more niche stuff has some level of engagement enabling you (together with the format) to find things you enjoy or are interested in.

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[-] shufflerofrocks@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

Kinda. I've been a part of it so long, and it has exposed me to so much new stuff. Reddit got me through some tough times as a kid, and I definitely would've been a different person if I hadn't found reddit.

But the site has been dying for a while now. Hivemind is bigger than before, so many more teenagers, no one is following rediquette, and admins are actively trying to 9Gag-ify the place. I've been finding myself disliking the place more and more for a while, sinking time into it more out of habit than anything else.

The only things I'm gonna miss is the ease of access to expert opinions - I could just go on the trees or bugs or any other niche subreddits and get someone really knowledgeable to answer it.

That, and discussions about my city and country - not many folks joining sadly

[-] scrollbars@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago

Maybe not mourn but I did have an "oh shit" moment today over a couple smaller communities where I don't know where people might scatter to. It finally sank in.

[-] nickajeglin@lemmy.one 10 points 2 years ago

Yeah, it's the little niche communities that I'm sad about:

An arborist spent 4 years helping me take care of an elm tree. They'd PM me every May to ask how it was doing, and I'd start another thread and send them pictures so they could tell me how to fix the roots or change the guy wires or prune the branches. When it got complicated, another arborist popped out of the woodwork to offer a second opinion and more advice.

I helped a person on oscilloscopemusic breadboard a little 2 channel opamp buffer/amp so they could use a CRT to make shapes from music instead of needing to buy a scope.

I won't miss reddit, but I will miss interactions like that.

[-] grizzzlay@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

There's definitely some stages of withdrawal going on for me. Having relied on that site for many years as a source of information, commentary, and just plain ol' entertainment scrolling on my lunch break, I definitely feel the sense of loss.

But that AMA yesterday with Spez really enforced that the site's not going to be at all what it used to be.

[-] BobQuasit@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

Not so much. I'm an early adopter, so it's not like I haven't been through this fifty million times already.

[-] dr_catman@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

I’m still in denial. I know Apollo is going away, I know I’m deleting my Reddit account on June 30. But I still don’t feel like any of it is real. Reddit has become such an integral part of my online life that I’m not sure how to even process this whole thing.

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[-] styxbane@beehaw.org 10 points 2 years ago

This morning, I was mourning it. However, I made a post asking a really simple question earlier but was instead attacked. It was truly such a simple question about something related to my house. So, not anymore.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Lol, been there.

Was it on r/HomeImprovement by chance?

As a long time lurker, occasional asker/answerer, my experience has pretty much been like this recently:

Ask how to change a lightbulb and within half an hour you'll have 6 replies asking if you got a permit for that, 3 asking if you really need a permit, 2 saying "no, you don't need a permit", someone else brand new chiming in "ackshually you do", and finally 1 awesome person that answers your question but somehow gets downvoted into oblivion.

[-] styxbane@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

It was on r/fixit. Every single time I ask a question on there I somehow get attacked every time. Last time I asked how to fix something on my kids toy box and someone said "maybe you shouldn't have kids if they are going to destroy stuff". sir. For real? You ever seen a child?

[-] howmanytacos@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

They probably haven't left their basement long enough to see a child lol

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[-] gotofritz@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Mourn the site that allowed toxic subs like the_donald or worse to recruit and prosper? Hell no. I will mourn small communities if they leave, but I don't believe they will. Lemmy is a good idea, but judging from the twitter / mastodon migration (or lack thererof) I am not holding my breath. The fact Lemmy's main devs are tankies makes mass adoption even less likely

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[-] daychilde@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

I was there from 2009, when they welcomed me and asked me to do an AMA while Fark mods temp-banned me accidentally. lol. I spent a lot of the last 14 years on reddit creating some communities, moderating default subs, stepping away twice, but going back each time.

Well, this is finally it. I'm an old.reddit user, so not directly impacted by this, but it's just a sign that reddit is dead. It's been dying.

I got into tildes thankfully, as the discussion there is great. And now I'm over here, as I know there's a large influx from reddit, so hopefully these two sites will fill that gap. :)

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[-] Devgard@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

the huge user base allowed for niche communities to form. if lemmy (or any alt) ever makes it to that size, i fear it'll be a while

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[-] hamtooth@beehaw.org 9 points 2 years ago

Reddit is the new facebook

[-] GreenCrush@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I think what I'm most sad about is losing easily searchable information. Finding an obsscure thread about some weird question I had is great. Maybe that will be preserved somehow. Idk. That and the more unhinged reddit posts and copypastas throughout history.

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[-] Trollivier@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

I used to spend so much time on reddit every day. But I just can't condone what's happening. I won't go back. It sucks. I hate it. But I'll survive.

[-] Senseibull@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

No I don’t mourn it, it became mainstream around 2014 and went downhill from there imv. The front page was full of rage politics and the comments became really toxic. Everyone got drowned out, spreading that audience across multiple sites might be a good thing in the end. End the hive mind

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[-] President_Pyrus@feddit.dk 7 points 2 years ago

I am beginning to mourn what reddit was. Not what it is or what it is going to turn into.

[-] Sparkko@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I subconsciously open Sync for Reddit and start scrolling about 50 times every day. Just joined here and installed Jerboa to try to supplement the habit. I love the environment here, but boy is it clunky and the content is so much more limited than Reddit. I'm definitely going to miss it, but I'll adapt.

[-] rss3091@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Yup. I've been on reddit for the past decade, on and off, through a couple of different accounts (got banned from r/comicbooks for posting a spider-man comic in its entirety), and I discovered so many great books, movies, tv shows through it. I gave therapy a shot because of people on r/getting_over_it, and it's made a significant difference in my life.

It just sucks how much awesome stuff and communities are going to be destroyed because of corporate greed.

[-] Kuroneko@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

I’m definitely going to miss using Apollo, as well as the subreddits I frequented. What I won’t miss are the subs dedicated to misinformation and intolerance that have been allowed to fester for way too long. I have high hopes that Beehaw will do a good job at keeping that crap out.

[-] RoaringSilence@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

Remember that legendary times when reddit was new?

That's what's happening now in the fediverse with Lemmy and kbin, I am to excited being a part of it as to mourn about reedit.

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[-] Manticore@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If by 'mourn reddit' you mean 'process the idea that reddit is as good as dead' then yes.

I'm not missing it much, though. I like the social engagement part, and I like the getting news part. I used the time-killing part. Lemmy is social engagement and so far it feels much more engaged, more concentrated, less fluff. And the news in Reddit is 1) mostly America-centric anyway and 2) linked from other sources of questionable repute. And time-killing is something I should do less of.

It's a nice place to find answers and guides, enough so that I use 'reddit' as an additional search term if I want relevant, accessible answers that are willing to call out a product's design for being at fault (if relevant) and suggestion unaffiliated alternatives.

But the communities, the content? I'd barely been engaged there for a year. I loaded it a lot, almost every day; I read it plenty. But I didn't actually enjoy it very much.

Leaving it behind completely will be difficult when it's still the best aggregate of user-generated content, at least for now. But actually commenting or posting in it... I'll be fine.

[-] ultraHQ@beehaw.org 7 points 2 years ago

Eh, i've been on it for probably around 15 years. Not going to miss it, but still will append site:reddit.com to all of my search queries as its impossible to get a good answer anywhere else on the internet

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