Anyone have any idea why a kleptoctracy like South Africa is jumping in here?
It's not like they blinked an eye when Russia invaded Ukraine and shipped off their kids. Far bigger conflict too. Not to mention a dozen African genocides.
Anyone have any idea why a kleptoctracy like South Africa is jumping in here?
It's not like they blinked an eye when Russia invaded Ukraine and shipped off their kids. Far bigger conflict too. Not to mention a dozen African genocides.
By the time the court decides, this will be old news and everyone getting all uptight now will have moved on to newer, flashier conflicts.
I don't think it is productive or helpful to be overly cynical. An ICJ ruling may be too late or insufficient to stop a war, but officially committing a genocide would be headline news, and will erode public and political support for the occupation of Palestine.
I don't know that it's a foregone conclusion that the ICJ would even come back with a genocide decision. I think that's a bullshit charge myself.
Why is it bullshit?
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
Killing members of the group. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part . Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
Hamas certainly seem to have committed genocide.
I'm actually struggling to see how any international war is not genocide by this definition ,given that there is always intent to destroy at least a part of your enemies national group. If said destruction has to be the reason for the war in order to meet the definirion of genocide then I don't think Israel qualifies in this instance as their primary objective is defense against Hamas.
In a war you usually target soldiers and evacuate civilians. I don't think, that there are many wars, where one side was able to block all access to food and drinkable water.
Israel has not blocked all access to food and drinkable water. If they had done so there would be noone left alive by now. Humantitarian aid is insufficient but not non existant.
Is the truth not bad enough? Why the need to lie?
They did in the beginning for a limited amount of time: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67051292 They relented to trickling some food and water thorugh because of international pressure.
And by the numbers and actions it sure seems like Israel warns civilians and targets soldiers. It's just a war crime that Hamas is using civilians as human shields.
Obviously it isn't a foregone conclusion. Even if they come back in favor of Israel, that doesn't mean people, especially Palestinians, won't remember what happened.
The Palestinians will never forget what Israel did because Israel will never forget what Palestinians did because of what Israel did because of what Palestinians did because of what Israel did because of what Palestinians did because of what Israel did because of what Palestinians did because of what Israel did because of what Palestinians did because of what Israel did beca....
Yep, this guy Israeli Propagandas. Critical thinking is hard, guys!
To be fair the current Israel propaganda line is: "Hamas are to blame for every Palestinian death because of October 7th 2023". When asked about any events in human history before this date, they plug their ears and scream "RREEEEE!!! HAMAS RAPE MACHINE!!!! HUMAN MEAT SHIEEEEELLLLLDS!!!!! ALL TERRORIST!!!! KILL ALL!!!".
So if this is an Israel propagandist, at least they're a bit more subtle than, yknow, the actual government of Israel.
I'm sure you and Jared Kushner just have such amazing insights into the area. I really don't know why they still don't have peace in the Middle East.
I don't particularly appreciate your insinuation that because I said Palestine won't forget Israel's actions that I somehow support the cycle of violence in the region.
As I didn't particularly appreciate your insinuation that because I said it's a hopeless circle of violence and grievances that I somehow support fucking Israel.
Please take the aggression down a notch, I was not the one who claimed you support Israel and I did not intend to make such an implication.
Ya we've all moved on from the holocaust. /s
Moved on from the genocide attempt in Ukraine fast enough.
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