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It’s never going to be over. It’s endemic now. Instead of Flu Season we will always have COVID and Flu Season.
I was about to make this same comment, but I looked up some statistics and it seems that COVID still has a 10x hospitalization rate and 3-4x death rate among seniors as compared to seasonal flu. While it's fair to say that COVID is probably seasonal now, like the flu, I think it's important to acknowledge that it's much more dangerous. I was never one to get flu shots in the past, but COVID shots seem like a good idea. I'll probably stay home from work longer if I do catch COVID, and I'll probably wear a mask if I have to go out in public before I'm fully recovered. I think we just need to recalibrate our common sense for this new reality.
https://www.ahcancal.org/News-and-Communications/Blog/Pages/Flu-or-COVID-19---Which-is-Worse.aspx
Between new diseases and all the smoke from entire states and provinces burning each spring and summer and the unbearable heat and cold, we're all gonna be walking around looking like sand people in a few years.
Iirc in the 2019/20 bushfires here in Oz, over 1B hectares were scorched, flora and fauna decimated nationwide. I smoked for years, I can tell you now more damage was done to my airways by those fires than all the durries I punched.
If we're going to burn the world to the ground, can we at least start with all the mansions, bunkers and superyachts?
Just want to say this is a quality comment. Thanks. Good points made.
There are so many people I come across now think of this as a cold, perhaps a bad one in the worse case. They have had it at least once to 3 times so there's nothing more that can be done in their minds.
My gf has had it 2 years in a row and I've dodged it there too.
I'm being told I'm a unicorn now as I'm the only one in my circles that hasn't had it yet.
Then I see the numbers above like this and recall almost 3000 died in 9/11 and how many were so moved by those senseless deaths which lead to a million more senseless civilian deaths while domestically these Rona numbers happening weekly, and there's nothing that can be done in a way worse than the lack of action for gun violence against children.
At least there are thoughts and prayers to be applied for gun violence. We won't even think of this minimum for those that have died from Rona..
Food for thought: you may very well have had Covid, multiple times. Plenty of people have no, or extremely minor, symptoms. My son has had Covid twice and both times his ONLY symptom was a bit of a stomach upset. We only found out he had Covid by sheer coincidence.
If only there were some sort of rapid covid test you could take to check instead of just headcanoning whether or not you have covid.
If you don't have any symptoms, why would you use a RAT? I'm not sure what they cost where you are, but they aren't all that cheap in Australia.
Feels weird to dunk on someone else's healthcare system as an American, but I have a shit ton of rapid tests that the US government gave me for free.
Haha yeah but the reason we have to pay for them now is that we have 90%+ vaccination rate so Covid really isn’t a big deal here any more. The vaccines are free. The RATs were also free until a year ago.
As someone working in a public place, I used the ten they gave me already (they only did it once iirc). Where do I stock up on these other shit ton of free tests? I had to pay out of pocket the last four, and that gets fucking expensive.
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I've wondered that. Thankfully I've not tested positive at work the first year and neither time the gf was sick. We get plenty of free rest kits still up here so we usually test at the sign of anything. I think that's how I've been able to avoid getting it with the gf as she has been religious about testing right away at the first sign of a tickle.
But still if neither of us are sick or showing symptoms we don't test so it could have come and gone without knowing.
I'm one of those who have extremely mild symptom. Just one. A minor sore throat. No mucus build up, no coughing, no fever, etc etc. In my line of work it's not terribly uncommon to finish a random day with heavy circular saw use and have worse symptoms than covid (for me). I consider myself very lucky but it sure was strange when my job site all got it and I was seemingly unaffected.
Bear in mind those are death counts. The variants have become less deadly but that doesn't mean they're harmless
I mean, no disease will never not be lethal, but that is considerable better than it was.
Depends on what you consider better. I'd rather be dead than permanently disabled from long covid.
Well that's certainly a take.
I don't think it's unreasonable to not want to be alive if you have no quality of life.
Long covid doesn't usually make you a vegetable or something. So it sounded quite extreme
Being a vegetable isn't the only negative QoL out there. If I have to take several breaks just walking to the mailbox, that doesn't sound like any sort of quality of life to me.
If you are out of shape you'd rather die than carry on living? Quite drastic if you ask me.
But what's the likelihood of getting long covid and/or otherwise getting such a debilitating condition that you'd rather die? Can't be too common
Struggling to walk to the mailbox because a virus permanently disabled you is not the same as being out of shape.
And I'm not pulling this example out of my ass. My shrink's daughter in law was a mountain climber, trail runner, etc. and after covid she can't walk to the mailbox without having to stop for a breather.
And she had covid 2 years ago.
It'd mean you're really out of shape. It's not a very common effect of covid though.
And I'm not pulling this example out of my ass. My shrink's daughter in law
Right.
I am in no way denying this claim, I just dont find stating that this time of year is the highest since this time of year last year *to be a compelling claim. While perfectly true, it doesnt convey anything mwaningful to me, as it seems that common diseases such as cold and flu are always on seasonal variations, so you would expect the peak seasons to be regular each year. I think communication on an issue like this needs to be both speciic and careful to consider that cultural expectations of diseases could lessen the impact if what is being said here.
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This seems to be the same Twitter account that said the Palestine marches in DC and London had a million people combined when every article seemed to describe the attendance as "thousands".
I'm sceptical of all their claims now.
Yeah these numbers (and post, by proxy) are meaningless without context, context I don't have. I really don't give a shit that there's 1,000 crusty old geezers dying every day. If they don't take care of their health and wellness I don't need to give a shit about their easily preventable death.
https://www.usbirthcertificates.com/articles/people-born-daily In the United States,
- 445 people are born every hour
- 10,687 people are born every day
- 8 people are born every second
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7117e1.htm
COVID-19, listed as the underlying cause in 415,399 deaths during 2021, ranked as the third leading underlying cause of death after heart disease (693,021 deaths) and cancer (604,553 deaths) (Figure 2). COVID-19 was the underlying cause for 13.3% of all deaths in 2021, increasing from 10.4% (350,831 deaths) in 2020. Unintentional injuries, the fourth leading cause of death in 2020 and 2021, increased from 200,955 in 2020 to 219,487 in 2021. start highlightOther leading causes of death maintained the same ranking from 2020 to 2021, except for chronic liver disease and cirrhosis and influenza and pneumonia. Chronic liver disease and cirrhosis, which was not among the 10 leading causes of death in 2020, was the ninth leading cause in 2021 with 56,408 deaths (51,642 deaths in 2020).end highlight Influenza and pneumonia, which was the ninth leading cause of death in 2020 (53,544 deaths), dropped out of the 10 leading causes in 2021 (41,835 deaths).
Yeah but people are over it. No more shutdowns. Covid isn't going away ever.
I wonder, how many of these people were homeless and could easily been prevented just with some human decency, housing them and given them basic medical care.
Unfortunately there are way too many people who not only refuse to accept that but who will also actively resist any attempts to control this or any future pandemic
Get vaccinated, test, mask and social distance.
I was really active about all that befor. But I've since stopped testing. I just don't feel like it matters if I have the flu or covid, it's not like I'm goint anywhere sick anyway.
I am saddened for those that die despite doing everything that they can to prevent it. The vaccine doesn't always work. Some people can't get it for legitimate health reasons (as opposed to the illegitimate excuses some people use). Etc.
Call me cold hearted, but with the exception of the minority of people meeting the above criteria, I can't help but imagine that most of the people dying of COVID at this point are willfully ignorant Trumpets taking one for their team. Good riddance to them. That's one less ballot we need to worry about in November.
Yup, the only good thing Trump has ever done was killing off a ton of his cult members.
I'd like to see the data broken out by comorbidities, vaccination status, etc. so we can understand the risks - is it mostly elderly? Immunocompromised? Unvaccinated? Diabetics? It would be useful to have a real assessment of my personal risk of dying at this point, and whether or not I should be alarmed. For instance, if it's mostly unvaccinated people, that's sad, but I'm basically a pincushion at this point so no worries.
Agreed, that would be useful knowledge. I'm sure there's a publicly available data set that has that information somewhere. But it's probably a case of knowing who to ask for the raw data and being willing to crunch your own numbers.
for the US*
My guy, people die from all sorts of shit all the time. It doesn't mean there's a pandemic for every little thing.
Covid is never going to go away and you need to get over it.
Exactly, the pandemic is over... because it's endemic now.
I am regularly boosted and test when I am sick as does my family. It ain’t over but I’m living my life. We have the means for most people to walk around without any concern, but some people refuse to take 30 minutes out of their day to get a (generally free) sho every 12mo or so because it’s inconvenient or their politics.
The pandemic is over for me and my family. All the “vaccine skeptics“ out there can get on board or deal with it at this point. It’s been almost 4 years folks, get with the program. Any of you reading this who are able but have not gotten boosted or (god forbid) aren’t vaccinated yet, get off your ass and do it. It’s not that difficult.
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Why?
It's open source.
So? It's fucking Jack Dorsey. He's a huge piece of shit.
No lords. No masters. No billionaires.
Homie, you're on whitepeopletwitter right now
Now check to see if the folks in the Hospital and dying were vaccinated.
Cold/Flu season is in full effect so I’m betting getting Covid with the Flu is rough.
Its people dying with covid not because of covid. Covid is here to stay and people will keep dying with it, or because of it, just like some die of pneumonia or other simple bacteria infections, because they already suffer other health complications
Excess mortally it's still higher than baseline pre pandenic (though much better than a year ago, but it gets hard to measure over time).
The new variants are less severe but this isn't just some accounting shell game.
It's like if a person gets shot and goes to the hospital, their lung collapses and they bleed out. You might say they died with bullet holes but not from bullet holes, but that's asinine.
Covid exacerbates medical issues, it causes others. It's impossible to separate the illness from the symptoms.
Anpther example, a diabetic might get Covid then go to the hospital because it made their symptoms worse, or they might be at the hospital and Covid stresses their system pushing them over the edge. You'd can't prove they wouldn't have died without it, nor was it the only cause of death. You just know they had Covid and died. Maybe that's exactly what you're dismissing, but you can't dismiss it without looking at all cause mortality too.
Edit: Just take precautions commensurate with your risk. Its better but not gone.
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