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submitted 9 months ago by robocall@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

A woman and two children drowned in the Rio Grande on Friday while trying to enter the U.S. near a section of the southern border where Texas National Guard soldiers have prevented federal Border Patrol agents from processing and rescuing migrants.

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[-] ThrowawayInTheYear23@lemmy.world 126 points 9 months ago
[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 55 points 9 months ago

Very much yes. And this time, let's complete the work.

[-] shani66@ani.social 27 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes. I live in a southern shithole and i'd completely get it if America decided to bomb the entire place into a parking lot with no warnings.

[-] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

No, please, bomb it into something other than a parking lot at least. The south already has way too fucking many of those.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

America has invested a lot into bomb technology but we don't have one yet that will bomb something into, say, a library.

[-] drbluefall@toast.ooo 9 points 9 months ago

Could we bomb it into affordable housing?

[-] digeridoo@lemmy.ml 13 points 9 months ago

We should have reconstructed harder...

[-] bedrooms@kbin.social 79 points 9 months ago

Right after Abbott said Texas would shoot migrants.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/01/greg-abbott-texas-shoot-migrants-border-biden-murder/

He said he doesn't because Biden would charge them for murder. Charge them now.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago

Conservatives rejoice at the misery, oppression and death they cause. This is who conservatives are.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago

Can we give Texas back to Mexico so they can learn a little bit about human rights?

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

as a mexican national the sentiment is bus them to NYC 🗽 Nothing would change

[-] kubica@kbin.social 41 points 9 months ago

You could divert the trolley without killing anyone but they are immigrants what do you do?

[-] Kalkaline@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago

Is there a way to flood one side of the tracks, run the trolley over the other, and kill everyone on board the trolley and the switchman to own the libs?

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago

So, these agents hear about an emergency situation at the park, but when they get there Texas state cops don't want to let them enter, so the agents... Just give up and go home? Gosh, no wonder people in Congress are talking about more funding for securing the border, we apparently don't even give our Border Patrol firearms if this is how easy it is to stop them.

[-] Mamertine@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Are you suggesting the Border Patrol get into a shooting match with the TX national guard? Both sides are armed. It deserves a court case, not a gun fight.

[-] theluckyone@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

While a woman and two children drown? With all due respect, you can shove that court case right up Abbott's ass.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Shut up. It sucks. But, risking an actual shoot out that could kill several people, possibly even collaterally damage, isn't an acceptable alternative.

[-] theluckyone@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

So you're fine with people dying, as long as they're migrants.

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[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Imagine this is what people said before the revolution.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

And nothing of value would be lost.

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[-] Suavevillain@lemmy.world 34 points 9 months ago

There is so much evil going on in this world you don't even have time to process each act anymore. Because there is something else every few hours.

[-] MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Yes. Just to be clear. It's been the same since the beginning of humanity. TV, Internet, social media, etc... just puts it in easy burst of info.

[-] Hylactor@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago

What am I supposed to do with this semantically corrected information?

What do you wish to influence by saying this?

I'm not sure when "things have always been bad" or even "things used to be worse" became a valid responses to "things are bad".

[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

They are saying we didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning.

[-] mhague@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The person said that things are so bad now you can't process it anymore. They're implying the world is getting worse and that it's overwhelming.

The reply is trying to help the person see that they're responsible for the lopsided intake of negativity, not the world.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 31 points 9 months ago

On today's episode of "The cruelty is the point"

[-] cranakis@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

"We'll teach those goddamn migrants. How dare they come here searching for a better life?"

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 27 points 9 months ago
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[-] 000@fuck.markets 26 points 9 months ago

I didn't realize states had the power to block federal personnel from performing their duties. Maybe they should activate the National Guard to protect the border patrol guys so they can do their jobs.

[-] Furedadmins@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

They don't but they told their soldiers they do. Federal border control isn't going to get in a shootout over it while it goes through the legal system.

[-] Thrashy@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

What's got me is, why bother with the legal system? Just call up the Texas National Guard into federal service and order them to enforce the law as regards Border Patrol's access to the border. If they refuse, court martial 'em. Either way, Border Patrol gets access to the border to cut down Texas' illegal barriers, and Abbott gets an unsubtle reminder about how the states are subordinate to the federal government. Win-win scenario.

[-] Djtecha@lemm.ee 25 points 9 months ago

Why is the federal government waiting for access from a state like Texas? Their officials are monsters and should be steamrolled to save lives.

[-] ComradePorkRoll@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Because the federal government isn't all that motivated to do anything about it. Republicans are evil and Democrats are apathetic.

[-] SrTobi@feddit.de 16 points 9 months ago

When they grandly talk that every soldier must refuse orders going against human rights, and if not, be legible to be tried and punished afterwards, they are talking about these kind of orders...

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 15 points 9 months ago

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

Army outranks the National Guard, especially the state ones. The POTUS absolutely also does have power to command any National Guard unit to stand down as well.

[-] TommySalami@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Biden needs to send the Army in and take over the Texas Border enforcement.

He legally can't. He is not able to unilaterally use the military as a domestic police force. This keeps the executive from using the military as their personal cudgel.

I agree with the strong arming via national guard though. I think there are some hoops, but there's absolutely plenty of precedent for a president taking command of a state's national guard (specifically in regard to border control as well).

[-] Melody@lemmy.one 6 points 9 months ago

He absolutely can send an army unit with Orders to enforce his orders to the Nat. Guard.

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[-] guacupado@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Let's remember this when Texas' grid needs federal help again.

[-] Necrosynthetik@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Fuck red states. If people want to deny other people assistance in times of need, I say we do the same to them.

[-] nieminen@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

I get what you mean here, but I MUST point out that many people who live in red states don't believe in the same ideology, or can't get out.

If there were a way to selectively punish the policy makers, and those that support it, I'm game. But this sounds like the same indiscriminate punishment rhetoric that Israel is using. (Please don't take offense, I know it's not how you meant it, just pointing it out)

[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 9 months ago

I mean, we know who the republicans are.

Personally, I think no one who currently holds office as a republican should be allowed to hold any government office or work at any private entity that works with the government.

They've had years to leave the party as it has slid down into the nightmare it is today. The party is a hate group. Staying a member is damning.

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[-] rekabis@lemmy.ca 8 points 9 months ago

This crime occurred when people were crossing the border. The FBI needs to get involved and charge all involved with giving the order and physically restraining the agents with two counts of murder, and all present (excepting the Border Patrol agents) with accessory to murder.

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