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Trump sure looks like he’s about to get smoked in court (www.vice.com)

submitted 9 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

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Trump battled a fraud lawsuit in New York that could determine his future as a businessman with a torrent of insults and taunts… and no coherent legal strategy.

Former President Donald Trump wrapped up his massive civil fraud case with a trademark personal touch: An attack on the judge, right in the courtroom.

“You have your own agenda,” Trump told Judge Arthur Engoron Thursday. “You can’t listen for more than one minute.”

And with that, the trial was over. Now, it’s the judge’s turn.

The man Trump just spent months taunting and insulting will now deliver a judgement within weeks that could wallop Trump’s business empire, with hundreds of millions in fines, a possible lifetime ban on doing business in New York, and possibly other penalties. This case could force Trump to hand over flagship New York properties, including even his Trump Tower headquarters in Manhattan. Trump, who spent a lifetime buffing his preferred self-image as the ultimate brash New York real estate tycoon, may shortly be banned from working in the Big Apple ever again.

With so much at stake, Trump’s decision to repeatedly insult the man with so much power over his fate was an unorthodox choice, to say the least.

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[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 135 points 9 months ago

“It’s not common,” Tristan Snell, a former assistant attorney general for New York State, told the Lawfare podcast after Trump’s impromptu courtroom remarks on Thursday. “That’s the kind of thing that someone would do if they were a criminal defendant with mental health problems.”

Checks out.

[-] Nobody@lemmy.world 122 points 9 months ago

Judge Engoron is going to drop an incredibly well researched and factually sound order. Trump underestimated this guy. He thought he could provoke him into making bad decisions, but channeling that anger into professionalism will end up crafting a ruling the appellate courts can’t touch.

It’s not like they have a lack of evidence. There’s a mountain of evidence they committed the offense and how egregious their conduct was. They ran their business like gangsters.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 51 points 9 months ago

Evidence isn't even necessary now. They've already been found liable. This is the damages phase. That's why Trump is being especially stupid even for Trump. He waited until after the judge's decision to start attacking him.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago

Never pick a fight against a nerd with power

[-] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 95 points 9 months ago

I heard (maybe on npr) that his lawyers maybe let him speak to see if the judge would stop him quickly and then they would have a reason to appeal.

It backfired.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago

Or they just had to let their client do something he demanded. They work for him.

[-] SeabassDan@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Well, it's not like they're gonna get paid.

[-] BaddDadd@lemmy.world 63 points 9 months ago

"The man Trump just spent months taunting and insulting will now deliver a judgement within weeks that could wallop Trump’s business empire, with hundreds of millions in fines [...]". "With so much at stake, Trump’s decision to repeatedly insult the man with so much power over his fate was an unorthodox choice, to say the least."

Sure, but the judge has more class than Trump can even conceive, and will be certain to not let the insults sway his decision, possibly swinging into Trump's favor. Not by much, but some rather than none. Plus he'll complain about the "mistreatment" anyway.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago

It's a bold strategy Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 54 points 9 months ago

huh?

hes already been found waaay guilty. its just all about how hard he is going to be spanked. and since weve all been forced to sit and watch the judge make no appreciable appealable moves, hes going to be spanked hard.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago

Different case. I thought so too. No he's in even more shit and gonna lose even more.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 months ago

In a pretrial ruling, Judge Engoron found Trump liable for fraud. The trial has therefore been primarily about what kind of penalty Trump, his company and his executives should face. -From the article

Isn't it this one?

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

he's going to be spanked hard.

- mushroom penis intensifies. -

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

Yes men have been blowing smoke up his ass for so long he’s well-cured by now.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 23 points 9 months ago

Whiny ass bitch.

[-] otl@hachyderm.io 7 points 9 months ago

@MicroWave So, what type of high would you get by rolling a fat J full of Trump and smoking it in a courtroom?

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

Well since it would be part dog shit and part face bronzer, it would make everyone's headache from listening to his stupid ass even worse than it already is.

Basically similar to ditch weed.

[-] Hominine@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Labrador

[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 8 points 9 months ago

I think that would be too toxic for regular person.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I imagine it’s about the same as bath salts- it’ll fuck you up, then it’ll fuck you up

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 5 points 9 months ago

I was thinking of it being more like roasting a pig.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 9 months ago

Don’t insult pigs like that!

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 4 points 9 months ago

You’re right, I apologize, they didn’t do anything to deserve that.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Imagine the smell

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

Like burning sun tan oil and feces.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I've heard about people wanting to smoke Jerry Garcia's ashes, but I think this is a little too far.

[-] Zozano@lemy.lol 3 points 9 months ago

So Trump didn't get a trial by jury, cool.

But... How could he? Is there a single American who doesn't have biases about Trump? Let alone TWELVE.

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