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[-] GlitzyArmrest@lemmy.world 142 points 9 months ago
[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 69 points 9 months ago

At least not without a golden parachute.

[-] Gork@lemm.ee 28 points 9 months ago

The execs I know yell at people. They somehow get rewarded for having temper tantrums.

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 125 points 9 months ago

It's not like the management has let people, who still work there, add or fix anything. It's been nothing but Nitro promos, and animated profiles. Huge shame that people got laid off like this

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 57 points 9 months ago

"Heres your hourly reminder to rent worthless garbage we want you to pay monthy for, per server"

[-] spacebirb@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

God forbid they offer goods and services in exchange for money

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

The market decides. And the market seems to have decided that their goods and services are not worth exchanging for money.

[-] vynlwombat@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

Discord is one of the few companies that don't shove 3rd party ads down your throat. But they do advertise the hell out of nitro. And yeah, I don't find nitro interesting enough to pay that much.

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[-] stom@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

I pay for it.

The cost is worth the extra quality when working with others over screenshare etc. The community management features are useful. A large portion of my workflow is aided by discord and GitHub, both of whi h I pay for premium features.

I don't expect them to provide these services for free considering the huge boost they give to productivity. Expecting them to be free is naive.

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[-] inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 110 points 9 months ago

To be clear, I'm not defeneding this pratice but explaining it. This cycle is how large businesses operate to foster growth over time.

  • Lay off people to tell stock holders they are becoming more efficient.
  • wait
  • Hiring spree, announce new features, new directions, hype hype hype
  • wait
  • Lay offs! Trimming overhead! Streamlining! Much efficency! Good business!
  • wait
  • Hyyyyyyype! Discord announces a plan to replace iMessage, Email and the entire concept of texting! Triples their staff! Such hype!

Rinse, repeat

It's horrific for the employees and a scathing indictment as capitalism as a whole. But, this is how large businesses work, not nessecarily a massive corporate slip up.

Here is a lawyer explaining the "dance steps" that the game industries is doing as of late.

[-] danielbln@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

That may have been true during the lavish times of ZIRP, but I wouldn't expect to see this dance any longer, at least until money is cheap/free again.

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 83 points 9 months ago

Y'know, they were going crazy over the top implementing unnecessary features... Maybe they actually did have too many employees doing useless things, but they should've instead had those employees focus on performance instead

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 37 points 9 months ago

You hit the nail on the head.

I see this so many places - nobody asks “how big does this company need to be”? This is the problem with public companies - they are caught in an endless growth trap. Private businesses at least get to a point where a) growth has to happen sustainably because often there isn’t endless money available to invest and b) once you’ve got one private jet, as owners, do you really need another?

Reddit was no different. Maybe it would have been better for us all if it was a much smaller team and just careful tendered like a garden that had filled its plot.

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[-] lazynooblet@lazysoci.al 12 points 9 months ago

Probably trying everything they could to get more $$$ but it didn't work out so.... bye.

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[-] Zoidberg@lemm.ee 78 points 9 months ago

Unity, Google, Discord. All within a day or two of each other.

For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired. Those employees didn't hire themselves. Someone came up with the idea.

If companies don't do this they're not attacking the root of the problem.

[-] neclimdul@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

Also twitch. Yuck...

Probably some great devs on the market for anyone hiring though.

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[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 52 points 9 months ago

Tech CEOs: we need better numbers. Fire a bunch of people! Ahh there we go. Now we’re flush with cash. Well, my work here is done.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

And gut the r&d budget. That's future CEO's problem.

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[-] jaykay@lemmy.zip 39 points 9 months ago

Before you do that, can you fix screen sharing on Linux?

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[-] MonkderZweite@feddit.ch 39 points 9 months ago

Now how to move the gaming community to Matrix or XMPP.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

You don't. Gamers, are generally happy to bow to their corporate overlords for some reason.

Source: am a gamer. And I admit I do put up with some of that bullshit too.

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[-] Potfarmer@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Discord went the way of Skype, it's just a bloated fustercluck now. I don't use it often, just once a month or so to keep up with a group of old friends, and every time I fire it up it has a new update bringing features I don't give a rats ass about.

[-] PanArab@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

Right after they ruined the app’s UI?

[-] Maximilious@kbin.social 27 points 9 months ago

Mobile UI is atrocious after the recent upgrade a couple months ago. Wish I could go back.

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[-] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 28 points 9 months ago

So the nitro subscription is gonna up to increase profits?

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're going to dedicate their entire next year's budget to introduce a new kind of emoji, though.

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[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

A wave of enshittification has struck Discord

[-] Urist@lemmy.ml 39 points 9 months ago

Sorry to say it, but it has always sucked.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

Nah. What sucked was having to type in IP addresses just to talk on voice.

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[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 26 points 9 months ago

Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.

People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore

Large company: we're laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn't make us enough money.

People: good, your product sucked anyways

[-] Chobbes@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.

[-] NotJustForMe@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 months ago

Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.

Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that's better than nothing?

Just call it supporter tier and that's it. I don't want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)

[-] AVengefulAxolotl@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

What's really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.

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[-] mint_tamas@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.

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[-] RandomStickman@kbin.social 17 points 9 months ago

Any alternative you would recommend? I'm mostly using it for video group call for dnd. Although convincing the group to change to yet another program would be the hardest part.

[-] m_randall@sh.itjust.works 38 points 9 months ago

As far as self hosted I’ve heard a lot about matrix but haven’t tried it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this weekend.

https://matrix.org/

There’s also telegram, slack, etc if you want something else commercial.

[-] Ebsku@sopuli.xyz 12 points 9 months ago

I've convinced few of my friends to use Matrix and it has been a really nice platform and now I prefer it to Discord not only because it respects user privacy but also because it doesn't have the nitro bs

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[-] CoopaLoopa@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~Microsoft~~ Roblox ripped off Discord and branded it as Guilded GG. Features-wise for audio and game streaming, they offer higher quality than Discord for free.

Is there any chance you'll get your group of friends to move to ~~"MS Teams for gamers"?~~ anything other than Discord? No chance.

Edited: Correction that Guilded is owned by Roblox, not MS.

[-] fjordbasa@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Guilded.gg is owned by Roblox, where does Microsoft come into play?

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[-] MaxPow3r11@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Capitalism!

It fucking sucks!

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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

In this thread: Fuck Discord! Fuck capitalism! No company should lay off 170 people.

In other thread: Fuck Boeing! Fuck capitalism! The company should die along with all 150,000 jobs occupied by their employees.

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[-] EnderMB@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Well, looks like I'll be limiting my use of Discord from now on. I've no interest in supporting tech companies that will reduce headcount over admitting fault.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one 14 points 9 months ago

Wait what? Ok, let’s say they “admit fault”; what then? Go under and have to let everybody go?

Be reasonable.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

So Tencent ownership, and extremely invasive tracking wasm't enough?

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