But no execs, I assume.
At least not without a golden parachute.
The execs I know yell at people. They somehow get rewarded for having temper tantrums.
It's not like the management has let people, who still work there, add or fix anything. It's been nothing but Nitro promos, and animated profiles. Huge shame that people got laid off like this
"Heres your hourly reminder to rent worthless garbage we want you to pay monthy for, per server"
God forbid they offer goods and services in exchange for money
The market decides. And the market seems to have decided that their goods and services are not worth exchanging for money.
Discord is one of the few companies that don't shove 3rd party ads down your throat. But they do advertise the hell out of nitro. And yeah, I don't find nitro interesting enough to pay that much.
I pay for it.
The cost is worth the extra quality when working with others over screenshare etc. The community management features are useful. A large portion of my workflow is aided by discord and GitHub, both of whi h I pay for premium features.
I don't expect them to provide these services for free considering the huge boost they give to productivity. Expecting them to be free is naive.
To be clear, I'm not defeneding this pratice but explaining it. This cycle is how large businesses operate to foster growth over time.
- Lay off people to tell stock holders they are becoming more efficient.
- wait
- Hiring spree, announce new features, new directions, hype hype hype
- wait
- Lay offs! Trimming overhead! Streamlining! Much efficency! Good business!
- wait
- Hyyyyyyype! Discord announces a plan to replace iMessage, Email and the entire concept of texting! Triples their staff! Such hype!
Rinse, repeat
It's horrific for the employees and a scathing indictment as capitalism as a whole. But, this is how large businesses work, not nessecarily a massive corporate slip up.
Here is a lawyer explaining the "dance steps" that the game industries is doing as of late.
That may have been true during the lavish times of ZIRP, but I wouldn't expect to see this dance any longer, at least until money is cheap/free again.
Y'know, they were going crazy over the top implementing unnecessary features... Maybe they actually did have too many employees doing useless things, but they should've instead had those employees focus on performance instead
You hit the nail on the head.
I see this so many places - nobody asks “how big does this company need to be”? This is the problem with public companies - they are caught in an endless growth trap. Private businesses at least get to a point where a) growth has to happen sustainably because often there isn’t endless money available to invest and b) once you’ve got one private jet, as owners, do you really need another?
Reddit was no different. Maybe it would have been better for us all if it was a much smaller team and just careful tendered like a garden that had filled its plot.
Probably trying everything they could to get more $$$ but it didn't work out so.... bye.
Unity, Google, Discord. All within a day or two of each other.
For every number of employees laid off, a VP level employee must be fired. Those employees didn't hire themselves. Someone came up with the idea.
If companies don't do this they're not attacking the root of the problem.
Also twitch. Yuck...
Probably some great devs on the market for anyone hiring though.
Tech CEOs: we need better numbers. Fire a bunch of people! Ahh there we go. Now we’re flush with cash. Well, my work here is done.
Now how to move the gaming community to Matrix or XMPP.
You don't. Gamers, are generally happy to bow to their corporate overlords for some reason.
Source: am a gamer. And I admit I do put up with some of that bullshit too.
Discord went the way of Skype, it's just a bloated fustercluck now. I don't use it often, just once a month or so to keep up with a group of old friends, and every time I fire it up it has a new update bringing features I don't give a rats ass about.
Right after they ruined the app’s UI?
Mobile UI is atrocious after the recent upgrade a couple months ago. Wish I could go back.
So the nitro subscription is gonna up to increase profits?
They're going to dedicate their entire next year's budget to introduce a new kind of emoji, though.
A wave of enshittification has struck Discord
Sorry to say it, but it has always sucked.
Nah. What sucked was having to type in IP addresses just to talk on voice.
Small company: yeah, we hired too many people, need to let go of 170.
People: such huge cuts, not touching them anymore
Large company: we're laying off the entire staff of pre-Elon Twitter worth of employees in this one department because they didn't make us enough money.
People: good, your product sucked anyways
I mean, I wouldn’t exactly call a company with 1000 employees “small”. It’s not the behemoth that something like Google is, but like… that’s a good chunk of people.
Still holding out for them to have a $10 a year tier with no added features. The $36 bucks a year entry fee is just too much.
Can someone here explain to me why so many free services directly jump to $3, $5 or $9.99 bucks a month? Why not $10 per year? Surely that's better than nothing?
Just call it supporter tier and that's it. I don't want any icons or upload limits either. I just want to not feel like a leech. ;)
I dont understand it either. I would happily donate to signal yearly like 10-15€, but 5 every month? No, thats just too much sorry.
What's really an insult are ad-based tiers from streaming services where they make money from both you and people advertising to you.
If a free tier is offered, why would you be a leech? It’s calculated in their business and free users indirectly bring revenue (the more free users they have, the more they can convert). This concept of being a leech is so alien to me.
Any alternative you would recommend? I'm mostly using it for video group call for dnd. Although convincing the group to change to yet another program would be the hardest part.
As far as self hosted I’ve heard a lot about matrix but haven’t tried it. Maybe I’ll give it a shot this weekend.
There’s also telegram, slack, etc if you want something else commercial.
I've convinced few of my friends to use Matrix and it has been a really nice platform and now I prefer it to Discord not only because it respects user privacy but also because it doesn't have the nitro bs
~~Microsoft~~ Roblox ripped off Discord and branded it as Guilded GG. Features-wise for audio and game streaming, they offer higher quality than Discord for free.
Is there any chance you'll get your group of friends to move to ~~"MS Teams for gamers"?~~ anything other than Discord? No chance.
Edited: Correction that Guilded is owned by Roblox, not MS.
In this thread: Fuck Discord! Fuck capitalism! No company should lay off 170 people.
In other thread: Fuck Boeing! Fuck capitalism! The company should die along with all 150,000 jobs occupied by their employees.
Well, looks like I'll be limiting my use of Discord from now on. I've no interest in supporting tech companies that will reduce headcount over admitting fault.
Wait what? Ok, let’s say they “admit fault”; what then? Go under and have to let everybody go?
Be reasonable.
So Tencent ownership, and extremely invasive tracking wasm't enough?
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