The US-defaultism that happens on the internet is very annoying
I immediately became a bit upset when I read this post and realized US defaultism was going to happen on lemmy too now. Very annoying thing.
The US! Oppressing everything else in the world since...the beginning!
Damn americans, they ruined america!
I mean pretty much every website is US focused unless stated otherwise.
ShitAmericansSay
If they were wrong people wouldn't be complaining about US defaultism.
And the argument always was that Reddit/Facebook/Twitter/whatever are American.
Well, Lemmy is not. So there's no reason for it to be americanised by default.
(Unless we'll hear the argument that the internet is American :p)
I don't think hosting was ever the argument. It was always just that the vast majority of users were American.
Any site defaulting to English is going to attract users who predominantly speak English as their primary language, and then people who speak English as a sort of lingua franca are going to be a smaller part of that. Among native English speakers, Americans make up the majority, so that's the prevailing default you are likely to see.
Even if Lemmy.world is hosted in Europe, I'd hazard that the largest user demographic is still Americans.
Actually (!) the majority of Reddit users are not American. Although Americans make up the largest single group, they’re in the minority overall.
attract users who predominantly speak English as their primary language
I never understood this argument. Why do you think it's important whether English is your primary language or not?
People in developed countries often speak English pretty much perfectly (and know the difference between their and they're).
If you're going to a web site with a mixed audience, you're gonna use English, and if you're going to a local one, you use your local language. No big deal?
Native English speakers have the advantage of not needing a different language to speak to their locals, but that's all.
If somehow everyone agreed that Esperanto will be the default internet language, you wouldn't expect the majority to be native Esperanto users.
I mean, I think I addressed that in my post. When the discourse is defaulted to English, you end up with users who are either native English speakers and people using English as a lingua franca.
In the Anglosphere, Americans make up the largest single chunk, and they accordingly see no need to "enclave" the way other groups may because being the biggest means their standpoint is effectively the default one.
Well, Al Gore said he invented it, so...
It is a stupid argument anyway that fundamentally ignores the entire concept of the internet being global and universal. If a site is aimed at a global userbase it is mostly completely irrelevant (except for legal purposes of course) where that site was originally created or where the servers are located.
Yeah I assume the reason there isn't is because the general ones are US-centric by default and then everyone else has to have somewhere specific to go. But I guess if they want their own dedicated place too why not?
Isn't that the problem being stated in the OP haha.
Of course the Germans have have everything all organized.
Ja natürlich :)
Na klar! 😁
That's what we love about them. And the accent when they speak English. And their cars. Not forgetting their tools. Beer.
It might be because most of us Americans lick the boots of corporations for free or get in line to.
Don’t forget about subscription services for everything!
I like my life for rent!
I mean you can just have your feed show only the stuff you’re subscribed to…
And I'm sure it would also be more convenient to have it all under one roof, just like everything about Germany is under feddit.de, and people from elsewhere can still visit if they like.
I'm trying to advertise my country's instance, feddit.nu (Sweden). feddit.de got a headstart with Germans by having been created before the Reddit migration and providing the first federated community discovery tool.
Instances that were created after the migration started on the other hand? It's frustrating with Redditor behavior, because they expect the Lemmy community to share the same name as the Reddit community (/r/Sweden) and only subscribe to communities that use the same name.
If you don't want your lemmy.world feed to be flooded with languages you can't understand, please make sure to annoy their users about it as much as possible, in English, that they should move to the country-specific instances instead of centralizing on lemmy.world. It's healthier for the Fediverse in general with everyone on many instances, in the long run.
Lemmy.ca exists for Canada too. There are dozens of us. Dozens!
That must be the most polite server on Lemmy.
Sorry
Isn't lemm.ee US based?
It's Estonian (.ee is the country code for Estonia) but it's also a cool domain hack and the owner opened it to everyone.
If it is, they aren't doing much to advertise it or to attract those kinds of communities.
well now someone needs to make the most obnoxiously American patriotic instance possible, as a meme
Can we afford to buy freedom.us?
Nah. What's weird is you thinking everyone should follow your strict rules about national segregation online.
If it's such a problem for you, instead of begging everyone else to fit your narrow world view, go find an instance that works better for you. Or, when you don't because that's ridiculous, make your own and block it off from everyone else not following your rules. Then you might be happy.
Given the prevalence of US defaultism, I don't mind the lack of a US-specific one. Plus, unless an instance, or even community, is regionally specific, chances are Americans are going to assume it to be American. Even if that subreddit specifically claims to be worldwide, it may still be dominated in excess by Americans, like the politics @ lemmy.ml community.
Well beehaw.org is hosted in NYC.
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