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AirTag 2 not expected until 2025 as Apple sits on backlog of first-gen inventory::If you’ve been hoping for a second-generation AirTag, you’ll have to keep waiting. According to a new report from Bloomberg,...

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[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 133 points 10 months ago

“If you’ve been hoping for a second-generation AirTag”

People are clamoring for the second generation of a Bluetooth luggage tracker?

[-] Kraven_the_Hunter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 10 months ago

Remember this is Apple we're talking about. Gen 2 will introduce additional form factors and fanboys will call it "game changing", "amazing", and god knows what else.

[-] eluvatar@programming.dev 31 points 10 months ago

Air tag pro, in our newly invented color "basically black"

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 10 months ago

"Now with the iStalk+ monthly service!"

[-] Rootiest@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

For only $50/month disable tracker detection on your trackers!

[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

"it's our most AirTag ever"

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

New form factor you say?

Credit card sized trackers are handy for wallets.

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 5 points 10 months ago

Next version will make the current generation cease working, even though there's nothing wrong with the hardware

[-] lud@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

Isn't apple quite good at supporting old products?

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

100%

Aside from that iPhone 6s batterygate issue back in 2017, they’ve generally been one of the best companies at keeping old hardware running.

[-] meyotch@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 months ago

Yes, vastly better on the average compared to PC makers and other phone makers. Having worked at an Apple Store once upon a time, we were happy to help the technically-savvy keep ancient stuff working if they had a need, but no way would we take the time to help a typical tech-phobe granny get one last year out of unsupported hardware. Granny gets a new mac that ‘just works’! It’s just basic business, a different solution might work better for different customers.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

I literally just helped my friends pick out a new Mac to replace their old one. Their reason? The decade old computer finally stopped getting software updates.

It makes sense to dump on Apple for being pricy, a walled garden, or being crappy with right to repair, but longevity / software support? Come on. They famously provide software updates for a long ass time.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Yeah, my old iPad Air 2 finally stopped receiving updates sometime this year. It’s like a decade old by now. There’s a lot of things to criticize from Apple, but legacy support isn’t one of them.

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

Next gen will be a square with rounded edges. Oh and the pro version will come in dark gray! But personally I prefer the round ones so I‘ll wait for the 3rd generation.

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 13 points 10 months ago

You don’t want the AirTag2 Pro? It’s titanium.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

For a lot of Apple users it's about flaunting that you have the latest toy. A multi year old device is not a good status symbol.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 36 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

OK, well… What would people want in a second generation AirTag anyway that couldn’t be addressed with software updates? Who, other than profit-hungry shareholders, can even see a need for a second generation AirTag? The original works just fine.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

Only thing I could see is making them somewhat harder to tamper with and sealed with a rechargeable battery.

They fit on the Apple Watch charger exactly. A lot of people assumed they were originally supposed to be rechargeable.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

I don’t know how that could possibly been seen as an “upgrade”.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

It could be used to make the device completely waterproof.

[-] Ross_audio@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

There are plenty of waterproof devices with replaceable batteries.

The idea you have to seal in the battery (and the device goes to landfill instead of getting a replacement) is a myth.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Of course it can be made waterproof with a replaceable battery, but would you trust your grandma to swap such a battery so that it stays waterproof?

Would you want to be the customer support for a device like that with a billion users? The amount of idiots failing to close the case properly and drowning their device is staggering, and the idiots are usually the ones who call CS to complain…

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, it’s a stretch for sure.

That said, because the tracking network is way broader than the other BT trackers, so stalkers love use and mod these little things. And they’re very un-Apple like, in that they’re easy to open up.

Stalking has been the one thing that AirTags constantly get slammed for in the press about. I wouldn’t be surprised if they sold an updated tracker that was sealed, packed full of resin, and marketed as “more secure.”

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 4 points 10 months ago

EU objects. The replaceable battery regulation kicks in 2025 and I believe it will apply to devices like AirTag.

[-] lucidinferno@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago
[-] ExLisper@linux.community 14 points 10 months ago
[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

Work it harder. Make it better.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Those Apple fans see the need for a gen 2.

[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Show me those Apple fans. Show me anyone (aside from shareholders) who want a new generation. Really. Even those guys are pretty happy with the current generation.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Those guys are pretty happy with their current phone too. But when a new one comes out they buy it day one.

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[-] Cyberflunk@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Tile works on both platforms

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Tiles are fine for stuff around the house, but if you leave something out in the wild, that’s where they shit the bed. Tile’s tracking network is dependent upon people willingly installing the Tile app. Apple’s FindMy network was deployed via an OS release that most iPhones auto updated to.

Google is about to follow Apple’s lead and bake something into Android. Once that happens, Tile is up shit creek. They will have the worst tracking network on both iOS and Android.

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Wile true, AirTag has significantly more coverage because all iPhones, regardless of AirTag ownership, transmit AirTag data. Tile, on the other hand, only works when people have the tile app installed and (ifaik) running in the background.

Edit: tile, not time

[-] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 12 points 10 months ago

Apple opened up the find my network to third party trackers but I don’t think tile has decided to join it yet. Looks like this brand supports it though: https://chipolo.net/en-us/products/chipolo-card-spot

[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 4 points 10 months ago

Apparently, that specific device is also exclusive to the “Find My” network

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

tbh i think Samsung's one is better just because of much larger network of devices

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[-] sbv@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

I'm looking forward to the promised Android alternative. It should be coming any day now...

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

They've only been on preorder for half a year...

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[-] OutrageousUmpire@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

The current version has a replaceable battery, so I don’t see any reason to upgrade to some other device.

[-] Pacmanlives@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Maybe if they where cheaper people would be buying them in droves

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Last year they were up to $1B sales.

They’re around $25 and priced pretty similarly to Tile an Chipolo. And unlike Tile, they’re actually good at precision tracking outside of your home.

Of all the stuff Apple sells, these things actually seem priced well. They’re like $5 more than the competition, but they have a much broader network.

[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 3 points 10 months ago

Samsung ones have a pretty huge network too, especially in the eu

[-] Swarfega@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

The trouble is Samsung is only for it's own ecosystem. The Google version should render the Samsung one obsolete.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

My bike cost 1000€, the cost of an AirTag is a rounding error when keeping it safe.

[-] samtoxie@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Not everyone owns a 1k bike.

[-] garretble@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

No, but I bought the pack of four and it's nice to have one on my bike, in my car, and in my bag where my laptop and iPad live when I'm traveling.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

You can tag your 1k car with it too.

..but not everyone. Yeah yeah 😆

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