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The ole switcharoo (lemmy.world)
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[-] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 252 points 10 months ago

For anyone wondering, this is an actual photo of Israeli soldiers posing with a Palestinian female prisoner.

For context, here is a link to a France 24 news article from 2010 that references this same photo

https://www.france24.com/en/20100818-idf-soldier-prisoner-photos-facebook-breaking-the-silence-palestinian-prisoners-israel

[-] Coasting0942@reddthat.com 26 points 10 months ago

Good old France 24. Protecting the soldiers right to privacy while representing their government.

[-] Mrduckrocks@lemmy.world 202 points 10 months ago

Bro got banned for this classic ledddit

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 101 points 10 months ago

Oof, the confrontation of cognitive dissonance was a little too strong, I guess.

[-] xor 39 points 10 months ago

To be fair, they did make a post with an intentionally incorrect title

[-] xantoxis@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't even know why that should be relevant, the sub is MadeMeCry and it's just as sad either way.

The actual rules say "titles should be descriptive" and, well, this one certainly does describe something.

[-] xor 13 points 10 months ago

I don't think "ham thoroughly soaked in rum being eaten by a fat drunk man, and a short, bald drunk man" is appropriate either, despite also being similarly descriptive.

[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Rumham!!

It should’ve been you!!!!!!

No need to be fair. Mods choose which rules they enforce based on perceived harm. They're not robots.

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

from the sub or from Reddit as a whole?

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[-] Drusas@kbin.social 92 points 10 months ago

This is backwards. The vast majority of people, certainly here on the internet, support the Palestinians. Especially young people, even when you are looking outside of the internet.

Meanwhile, almost everybody seems to have forgotten about the plight of the Ukrainians.

[-] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago

Bitch I'm just tired. What the fuck am I supposed to do?

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

Generally speaking, be upset when super shitty things happen to people regardless of nationality.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

I'm running out of upset. I'm just kind of getting numb to it all. I hate it.

[-] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I've been upset since the moment I saw the people in Yemen starve. They're not in a good position but I can't do shit so worrying about it only hurts me.

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[-] greenskye@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago

I don't think support of the Palestinians was that clear even a few weeks ago. At least in relation to current events. Opinions were in a lot of flux

[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 12 points 10 months ago

Eh not sure about that

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[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago

Those can't be recent posts on Reddit. Reddit got rid of its award system recently. Not that I don't believe these things happen, I do.

[-] clearleaf@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

This is why the "4 days ago" type of timestamp is garbage.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 7 points 10 months ago

2010 is the age of the photo, the post was between the start of the invasion of Ukraine and the removal of awards.

[-] Doorbook@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

Remember the US government and congress are okay with this organization and send them billions of dollars every year.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Correction, Biden dont even have to ask congress to sell Israel „emergency” aid.

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago

This image is like 20 years old

[-] Altofaltception@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

You mean this didn't start on October 7?

[-] PatFussy@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

Yes, gaza has been terrorist attacking israel for about 70+ years now

[-] UNWILLING_PARTICIPANT@sh.itjust.works 32 points 10 months ago

Anything else been going on in Palestine during that time...?

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[-] timidgoat@lemmy.ca 28 points 10 months ago

Guys, imagine being THIS out to lunch.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

I try, but it’s beyond the realm of reason.

[-] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Yes, gaza has been defending itself against israel for about 70+ years now

FTFY.

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[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago

I think there's a higher probability that Russian soldiers would rape a female prisoner than there is for IDF soldiers to rape a prisoner. So that factors into people's feeling on this little "switcharoo" exercise.

It's not actually hypocrisy to have awareness of a military's track record in regards to sexually assaulting their prisoners.

There's also a significantly higher probability that Hamas would rape a female prisoner than basically anyone in the world.

But I suppose people who look the other way when their allies call for genocide, look the other way when they intentionally murder over a thousand people, they're probably also going to look the other way about them raping their prisoners too. I guess that's consistent and therefore not "hypocritical."

[-] theredknight@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago

Can I see the equation you're using to calculate these probabilities?

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I'm afraid you would have to look up his ass, where those probabilities were pulled from.

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[-] weeabooextract@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

How many thousands ~~civilians~~ oops, pardon, "terrorists" did IDF kill until now exactly? Not a single person in their right mind would complain if IDF targeted only terrorists. But at a certain point, when civilian casualties from the retaliation far outweigh the casualties from the initial attack we need to ask ourselves "What is even the point of this?"

[-] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

Well the terrorists don't wear uniforms, do they?

Which means that A) we can't know how many of the casualties are terrorists and B) the difficulty in identifying who's a terrorist and who's a civilian leads to greater civilian casualties.

If the Hamas terrorists all wore uniforms (and maybe put civilians in their underground bunkers instead of their "brave" leaders) there would be far fewer civilian casualties. Did you ever consider the possibility that Hamas actually wants there to be more Palestinian civilian casualties because it makes people like you hate Israel?

In most countries the military prioritizes protecting their civilian population. Do you really think Hamas is prioritizing protecting the civilian population of Gaza? If the government of a country doesn't prioritize protecting it's civilian population (and may actually want there to be civilian casualties since it helps their cause) shouldn't you expect there to be more civilian causalities than seen in other conflicts?

How do you react when you see people cosplaying as actual genocidal terrorists at "Free Palestine" protests? Do you ever stop and think "are we the baddies?"

[-] weeabooextract@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Did anything I say imply I'm pro-Hamas? Or anti-Jewish? No, I clearly wrote that I'm anti-IDF and anti-Netanyahu government. The government that shortly before the war started was facing massive protests due to its authoritarian policies, and that is rumoured by Israeli citizen to be using the war to distract the public from its aforementioned scandals.

You should also consider the fact that Israeli authorities propped up Hamas as a counterweight to PLO, which they feared would be able to successfully win Palestinian independence. And similarly to how Pakistan propped up the Taliban, now that the radical Islamists got into power, they begun conducting terror attacks on the territory of the country that helped them.

"Do you ever stop to think 'Are we the baddies?'" says the person unironically supporting a government that calls its civilian victims "animals"

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[-] Aceticon@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

When the French Resistance attacked the Nazis during the occuption of France, the Nazis would at times go to a village and kill 10 random people for every German that had been killed.

Israel has already passed the 20-to-1 ratio and counting. In fact the 10-to-1 ratio is just of the killed Palestinian children to killed Israelis. The previous bunch of Nazis didn't children in those they murdered as reprisal.

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