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[-] miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml 136 points 10 months ago

And this is why I like Androids feature that automatically revokes permissions after a certain timeframe of not using an app

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

iOS will sometimes ask you even if the app has been using it (for certain permissions), and might even tell you how often the app has used it. Which is really handy.

Like, “this app has accessed your location from the background 48 times in the last month, you gave it permission, would you like to change it to ‘when using’?” Or “This app has had full access to your photos, would you like to limit it?” (Not exact wording, but you get the idea.)

Something that delighted me when I discovered it.

(Android does permissions very well too, I’m in no way trying to knock it.)

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

With the last update, Android also started limiting apps' access to photos on a per-photo basis. Not even Google Lens (which I use to copy text from slides) can see all my photos. (Don't get me wrong, though: I'm not naive enough to believe Google can't see my photos at all.)

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[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 80 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I've done this on a simple timer app I developed.

Why? Because I want the timer to stop automatically during a phone call. To do this I need to request READ_PHONE_STATE (which bafflingly tells the user the permission is to "make and manage phone calls"). Unfortunately, there's no way to alter the permission request to tell the user (at least in Android) why you want the permission. They really need to make the permissions more granular and provide some way for devs to communicate what the permission is for.

[-] rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 52 points 10 months ago

This is why, on the occasion of necessary permissions not being set, a lot of apps nowadays have a popup which tells the user something like "you need to grant permission for X because it actually lets this app do legitimate thing Y" like you just told us, with a button to click over to do the permissions grab and trigger the OS popup.

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[-] Lath@kbin.social 52 points 10 months ago

Obviously, the calculator app needs camera permission for scanning complex formulas that would otherwise require lengthy manual input and calculating them automatically.

[-] tahoe@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

I mean, you can download one in 10 seconds if you really need one (or use Spotlight)

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

The app I use to write notes needs access to everyone in my Contacts. For "reasons".

[-] jws_shadotak@sh.itjust.works 56 points 10 months ago

Stop using that app and find a different one.

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[-] Maco1969@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

At least you've got a calculator app, ipads have never had one. Kind of ironic for a device that has more processing power than 1970's supercomputers.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 21 points 10 months ago

more processing power than 1970's supercomputers.

Doesn't every computer and computer-like device for the last couple decades or more? Or is that the joke?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago

The joke is that ipads don't have a calculator despite having plenty of computing power

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[-] Sprokes@jlai.lu 10 points 10 months ago

Isn't it better though? You can install it if you want.

[-] Maco1969@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

It's just odd, anything ever made with a user interface since the 80's has had a calculator app. Apple just remove features and charge more for something that is inherently similar to everything else they've ever done.

[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 22 points 10 months ago

Apple just remove features and charge more for something that is inherently similar to everything else they've ever done.

Ah, the joys of walled garden consumer electronics!

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Except there are tons of free calculator apps, so they aren't charging more in this case. Your criticism of Apple, in general, is warranted. Just not in this case.

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[-] spongebue@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I'm all for choice or whatever, but a simple system-provided calculator should be benign and lightweight enough to be there and coexist with any competing calculator app without much drawback. Like a clock or web browser.

[-] Mosfar@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

You can use the search bar for quick calculations. That doesn’t escuses Apple from adding an calculator app on iPad! Most calculator apps have ads or are paid

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[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Isn't app store full of calculator apps?

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Mostly with ads. It’s easy to argue that a calculator is more fundamental to a functional tablet than a web browser is, and Apple includes one. By all means, there ought to be a market for calculator apps, but it’s pretty fundamental to cover the basics. Also, Apple already has a calculator on iPhone and iPad runs pretty much the same software, so where is it?

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[-] Ziglin@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

And I thought our admins removed it...

[-] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

You know what's also annoying AF? The number of apps that keep asking permissions when you open then. Doesn't matter how many times you say no.

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[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 36 points 10 months ago

Friendly reminder to my Android peeps that https://f-droid.org/ rocks!

I think I open up the google play store like twice a year.

[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Had to get a Gallery app from there last week

gstore idea of gallery app is ads in your stolen pictures

[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Seriously, is that how far we came?

laughs in LineageOS

But seriously folks, you can survive without Google Play Store. While it definitely is sometimes not easy and there are obstacles put in your way, after a certain time you learn to accommodate. And I have a peace of mind knowing that no one is selling my pictures to data foraging companies God knows where.

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[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I open F-Droid like every week just to know what's new. Found some cool apps that way. I'll drop some recommendations here:

Thumb-Key

Quasseldroid

QRAlarm

Audile

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel like most people nowadays are just typing math calculations into their search engine. Which obviously also has massive privacy implications.

[-] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago

Yeah. If a search engine knows you didn't know 5x(30/47)^2 they might be able to derive your SSN from that information.

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[-] urist 17 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Once upon a time I wrote an IRC chat bot for my friends and I that could do calculations and convert units (metric -> imperial) with a command.

My friends were impressed that I included units like furloughs, leagues and bushels.

My chatbot was just googling their request and returning the result (which, handily, was done by the google engine itself and was very easy to extract with Beautiful Soup in python). This was 15+ years ago.

This doesn't really have anything to do with your reply, just a fun memory I guess

[-] Kase@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Which obviously also has massive privacy implications.

How so? I don't know much about this stuff lol

[-] HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm mainly concerned with people using it for calculating things personal to them, finances/taxes comes to mind first. While the search engine may not know with certainty what the numbers represent, they have so much data on you that they could very well start inferring what those numbers are to add to your profile. For example if you suddenly do a ton of calculations in the days leading up to when taxes are due and all the numbers have two decimal places, it would be a pretty big hint to them. Or if you always do budget calculations on the days you get paid, they might be able to recognize that pattern and work out when your payday is and what your income, expenses, and savings are. And they definitely have AI to make these inferences for them so they can do it for every single user. IDK I might just be paranoid though.

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[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

This is one of the many reasons I built my own weather application for Android. Too much crap out there.

[-] Daefsdeda@sh.itjust.works 7 points 10 months ago

Are you willing too share? Been looking for a good weather app.

[-] kzhe@lemmy.zip 11 points 10 months ago

On F Droid lots of beautiful ones. Breezy, Prognoza, Rain, and more.

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[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

It also wants to access your location and nearby devices and wifi

[-] psud@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Weather wants your location so you can get weather for where you are

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[-] aluminium@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

iPads : I'm once again asking you to download a calculator app from the app store

[-] capital@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Is this an Android meme I’m too iOS to understand?

[-] Gestrid@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago

Sort of. I don't remember the specifics, but it used to be that some apps completely unrelated to phone calls had to request access to make phone calls because of some stuff they needed that Google only allowed them access to if they had the phone call permission.

I believe Google has since changed it so most of that stuff is now a separate permission not related to phone calls, so you don't see it as often now. It can still happen with older apps, though.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Oh don't worry, there will be a reason.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

F-Droid ftw!

[-] Hikermick@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Not sure how Bernie is relevant here

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 65 points 10 months ago

the meme is him saying "I am once again asking" (for donations)

[-] 7Sea_Sailor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 10 months ago

Are you too young to know the Bernie Sanders meme, or too old to know the Bernie Sanders meme?

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[-] NateNate60@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

What camera app are you lot using? I'm just using the default Google one and it works as expected with no bullshit.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 26 points 10 months ago

That's because it automatically allows camera permission obviously!

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago

Oh man, I hope the sarcasm is just implied.

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