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Star Citizen Introducing a $48,000 Ship Bundle, but Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000::Star Citizen developer Cloud Imperium Games is releasing a ship bundle for its controversial space simulator that costs an eye-watering $48,000.

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[-] squirrel 133 points 10 months ago

Because there are lots of people in this thread who paint whales as "rich schmucks" who can afford to spend $48k without thinking twic. This is a myth that lots of the gaming industry itself loves to perpetuate, because it absolves them of taking responsibility for ruining lives.

Research has shown repeatedly that whales are much more likely to be people with mental health problems and/or gambling addicts. That Star Citizen isn't a freemium game with loot boxes makes it marginally better than - let's say - Genshin Impact, but offers like the bundle in the article is still predatory.

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[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 118 points 10 months ago

Only for Players Who Have Already Spent $10,000

This is so predatory in itself.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 60 points 10 months ago

Just being eligible for it is a sign that you need to make some life changes.

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[-] CheesyGordita@lemmy.world 109 points 10 months ago

I know it’s not the same, but you could just play elite dangerous which is an actual game, and you can get new ships through a crazy new innovative mechanic called “playing the game”

[-] PeterPoopshit@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I like elite dangerous but I don't like that you have to spend hundreds of hours grinding just to accomplish even the most minor gameplay advancement. No Man's Sky and Starfield are more playable space games that that grindfest. I wish someone would just remake elite dangerous for normal people.

[-] Fisk400@feddit.nu 20 points 10 months ago

I want someone to make Elite dangerous but with single player progression. You get to pew pew in a bunch of increasingly fancy ships and at the end you fight an alien ship or something. 200 hours to complete and then go play something else with a nice experience.

[-] villainy@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago
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[-] tory@lemmy.world 56 points 10 months ago

Never play Star Citizen, even if it somehow becomes playable. Got it.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 38 points 10 months ago

The game costs $45, for the record. For an MMO. With no subscription fees.

WOW costs $155 per year.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago

Yeah, this is what I keep telling people but nobody wants to listen.

Once the snowball effect has taken hold, it's next to impossible to reverse.

I fully expect us to see SC detractors to vanish into thin air like those who voted for George Bush Jr. once the game launches and everyone is playing it.

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[-] Laticauda@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

Apparently it costs up to 48k to get certain ships, so that means absolutely fucking nothing.

[-] momocchi@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

You can buy them in game. honestly i dont know why these people even want to buy all these ships with real money, a big part of these games is working your way up and upgrading your ship or buying new better ones. These people are paying to remove that part of the game which blows my mind

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[-] stown@sedd.it 13 points 10 months ago

It costs 48k for every ship in the game. The most expensive single ship that I've seen was about 1.2k.

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[-] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

To be fair, WoW is an actual complete game, while SC is very, very unfinished. And I say this as someone who occasionally plays it and gets some enjoyment out of it.

[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

That's a incorrect comparison. You're treating WoW and Star Citizen to be similar games. When WoW for more than a decade has been in its own premium bucket.

The average MMO today is free. Then the small percentages of MMOs that require the core game purchased.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago
[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

GW2 is free and FFXIV is also free up to storm blood or shadowbringers expansion. How much content is there in Star citizen again?

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[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 48 points 10 months ago

Some poor fuckers are getting fleeced.

[-] RiikkaTheIcePrincess@pawb.social 35 points 10 months ago

Kinda hard to consider them poor if they can afford the $10k it costs to whale out $48k more :-\

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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 14 points 10 months ago

If you can afford to spend $48,000 on a video game, how is that getting fleeced?

Like, OK, maybe some idiot mortgages their house for this. Bad spending decision. More likely, anyone who looks at that ticket price and thinks "fair deal" is already a millionaire, and quite welcome to do whatever the fuck they want with their money.

Virtual ships certainly cost a lot less to operate than a Lambo or a boat.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

It's like any amount, there's people that can properly afford it, and others that will beg, borrow and steal to buy it for the prestige and hurt themselves and others to do it. It's the latter where the harm lies.

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[-] Xavier@lemmy.ca 47 points 10 months ago

I wonder if games that require such farfetched amounts of money should be included in the Luxury tax?

A lot of those "whales" have cognitive difficulties and/or gambling addictions issues. Since many if these game developers/publishers have no qualm blindly milking and profiteering. It should be no surprise if some sort of tax is levied to help societies (à-la-tobacco or sugar tax) attenuate the ravages of gambling addictions.

Moreover, Star Citizen has been released over 10 years ago while been continually updated.

At what point is it just senseless greed that has taken over the game?

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Released is a strong word, lol. Agreed though, it is completely unprecedented

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[-] Zoboomafoo@slrpnk.net 43 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

According to a friend of mine that plays, the whales were asking for this feature so they didn't have to go through the purchase process for each ship

[-] menemen@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Remembering when it was not yet released, thinking "This looks kinda cool, but the business model looks terrible". Seems it got much worse.

[-] asyncrosaurus@programming.dev 26 points 10 months ago

Seems it got much worse.

Seems like it's going great for the developer.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 37 points 10 months ago

Not real life money right?

[-] papertowels@programming.dev 61 points 10 months ago

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[-] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I can only assume you've no idea what Star Citizen is. 🤦🏽‍♂️

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[-] bezerker03@lemmy.bezzie.world 33 points 10 months ago

To quote Thor. Star citizen is a storefront pretending to be a game.

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[-] MrNesser@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

Cap'n i see the whale thar she blows

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

If you are rich enough to afford to pay for this, you're too rich.

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[-] nifty@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

That $48K can get you a real plane though, or boat. But maybe someone paying that for ships in Star Citizen has both already 😅

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[-] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago

Wait, in real money? Or like video game money?

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 18 points 10 months ago

If this is a genuine question you have some epic story to treat yourself to about how the bestest game of all times was ~~made~~ promised

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[-] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

This kind of news really allows me to know which games not to play.

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[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Honestly, at this point, if you buy this you and SC deserve each other, have fun.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

I hope an underground software liberation group (cracking) can make this software accessible for everyone.

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