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[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 117 points 10 months ago

People's Park was a major local landmark with a long history that is well known to students, faculty, residents, and alumni. It had become a home to otherwise homeless people whose existence was inconvenient for the university's expansion plans and an eyesore to arrogant passersby.

The park's history includes both civil and violent disobedience, including against the university itself.

It would not be surprising to hear that, whatever is built on this lot, it is subsequently destroyed by an act of arson or other vandalism.

I am surprised they are taking the risk and making the investment at all. IMO it would have been safer to just buy some of the private properties surrounding the park instead, even at a premium.

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 10 months ago

A handful of Molotov's at night once a week during construction can make it very expensive to build something.

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Sugar will completely eliminate concrete’s ability to cure. A single pound of sugar can destroy an entire truck of wet cement.

Not that I’m advocating for it. But it’s laughably easy to sneak onto a site with a hardhat, safety boots and a vest, and sabotage active construction.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Neat: https://fritzpak.com/is-sugar-a-good-concrete-retarder/

Although I'm unsure about the pound of sugar to entire cement truck claim.

[-] ironeagl@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago

Yeah, a cement truck is like 45,000 lbs of concrete, which is .002%. Apparently .06% will delay setting by 90 minutes, so it's more like 30 pounds?

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[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They're going to molotov concrete and steel?

Cool.

Cool cool cool.

[-] BananaOnionJuice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No, a construction site contains plenty other stuff than concrete and steel: tools, equipment, building materials, temporary buildings for the workers, cables and piping.

On top of that each time concrete gets fire damage, it gets weaker and may need to be replaced, at least core samples + weeks of analysis time + $$$ is needed to determine the damage.

And let's say they eventually finish building the apartments, they may never stop smelling like a BBQ.

And then they need to hire 24/7 security, and maybe new workers because they don't want to work in a DMZ.

[-] ExLisper@linux.community 6 points 10 months ago

How long would it take for the police to get involved and protect the site for free? Or do you think they would just ignore it? Does the law in USA say that if the victim of the crime is a company they have to hire private security and police is not involved?

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

if there is a series of crimes in the area, police would increase patrols in the area.

Anything more than that would require hiring a private security company.

ground based security could easily be bypassed by a drone and with a remote igniter and a release latch.

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[-] baelem@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

This building is being developed by the university on university-owned land, so the university police would be in charge of protecting university property.

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[-] CallumWells@lemmy.ml 14 points 10 months ago

Apparently just a kilogram of sugar mixed into a ton of concrete will destroy the ability of it to actually function correctly as concrete. But I learned this here on Lemmy and have not checked the veracity of it, so take it with a pinch (handful?) of salt.

[-] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's accurate or close to it.. Some concrete truck drivers will keep bottles of coke to pour in there in emergencies where they need to make sure it doesn't set inside the truck.

[-] PopMyCop@iusearchlinux.fyi 4 points 10 months ago

I'm a sweets guys, so I'll take it with a pinch of sugar, thanks.

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[-] AFaithfulNihilist@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

No for the concrete you use sugar, and for the steel... I don't know maybe jet fuel or something.

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[-] sxan@midwest.social 12 points 10 months ago

I low-key wish I could put you and @deegeese@sopuli.xyz in a jar and shake it.

In the nicest way.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

It’s a controversial local issue and in my lifetime I’ve seen local opinion shift from strongly anti-University to now mostly in favor of development.

I credit this to the original activists dying of old age, combined with a younger generation that has never known the park as anything except a place where people overdose in tents.

[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Haha, their take is pretty charged but it's valid imo.

[-] thedevisinthedetails@programming.dev 4 points 10 months ago

They're building student and homeless housing on it and leaving half the park.

[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Oh, that's probably going to mitigate some of the risk. Hey, maybe it'll be enough!

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

The shipping containers make it so much more dystopian, and calling it “The People’s Park” is just bad writing, even for schlocky YA fiction.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 months ago

Even more dystopian if you know the park's history

[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I do, but I was writing from the perspective that it was invented for the Hunger Games.

[-] LinkOpensChest_wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

I'm sorry, I didn't intend to imply that you didn't.

[-] Damdy@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I don't, tell me.

[-] Pandantic@midwest.social 4 points 10 months ago

@ChatGPT@lemmings.world Can you tell me about significant historical events occurring in The People’s Park in California?

[-] ChatGPT@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

People's Park in Berkeley, California, has been a notable site for community activity and protest since its inception in the late 1960s. Below are some significant historical events associated with People's Park:

Establishment and Initial Conflict (1969): Originating from an undeveloped piece of University of California-owned land, People's Park was created by community members who sought to use the space for a public park. Tensions between university officials and park supporters led to a major confrontation on May 15, 1969, known as "Bloody Thursday," when Governor Ronald Reagan ordered the California Highway Patrol and Berkeley police to reclaim the land. This resulted in violent clashes, and one bystander, James Rector, was killed by police gunfire.
Continued Activism and Protests: Over the years, People's Park has been a hub for political activism, protests, and countercultural events, reflecting the broader historical movements and changes taking place in American society. Anti-war protests during the Vietnam era, advocacy for homeless rights, and demonstrations against various social issues frequently took place in the park.
Development Threats: The park’s existence has been threatened several times by development proposals from the University of California. These threats have often been met with protests and community action to preserve the park for public use.
Anniversary and Recognition: The park celebrated significant anniversaries with events that brought together community members and activists to reflect on its historical significance. On its 50th anniversary in 2019, there were commemorations of the struggles and achievements associated with the park.
Ongoing Role as a Community Space: Despite facing challenges, People's Park has remained an important community space for Berkeley residents and a symbol of grassroots activism. It serves not only as a recreational area but also as a locus for community gardening, social services, and cultural expression.

People's Park's story is deeply entwined with the broader narrative of social change in America, and it continues to be an emblematic site for collective action and memory in the community.

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[-] crsu@lemmy.world 70 points 10 months ago

If you ever notice construction is stalled in your city, it's because it's a racket.

They low bid the contract.

They take contract.

Work stops because they didn't ask for enough money.

They're already there, it'd cost too much to fire them or move their supplies and equipment. They know this so they drag their feet until the client pays more.

Construction begins again.

[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 108 points 10 months ago

I work in construction insurance, protecting the government and investors against construction companies that do this. Our underwriters study the project, the construction company history and everything related and we qoute a price that the construction company should pay even before the government or the investors transfer anything. If the construction company or the project fail for any reason we take control over the project and find a new construction company to complete it. After that, our lawyers go after everything owned by the construction company and their executives to try to recoup anything we can.

[-] throw4w4y5@sh.itjust.works 24 points 10 months ago

fucking based.

[-] fidodo@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I'm curious about your opinion on what the reason that construction takes longer and costs more in the US than in other countries is.

[-] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

I wish our construction was like in Japan. Instead we have the worst, slowest companies in the Chicago area. How does it take months or even years to fix a road AND they start a new project a mile away on the same road at the same speed. Then somehow the road end up bumpy anyway cause they didn't fix around the manhole covers correctly.

[-] nixcamic@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I visit friends in Chicago every year. There's a place on the interstate that has been under construction for 5 years. It's just like one lane they've been paving. What the heck?

[-] AsheHole@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

There are a few roads in the suburbs that will have something finish getting fixed only for the same exact road to be torn up again for something else cause they didn't coordinate. One time I saw a road get repaved cause it needed it, then half of it was torn back up to do some sort of maintenance, once that was fixed and repaved more of that area got torn up to change out some water stuff and drains, then a year later the whole road is torn up again to be repaved because now it's been 5-6 years and parts of it need it.

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[-] Shialac@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Every public construction in germany ever

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[-] hikikoma@ani.social 41 points 10 months ago

So this is why all the third places have dissappeared, greed? Man, fuck this dystopia.

[-] AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Exactly. Parents tell their kids to go play outside, without looking at the "outside" they've created.

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 26 points 10 months ago

I cannot wait until they finally pave over that violent shithole.

People’s Park supporters have their heads so far up their asses they can’t smell the meth’d up rapists that have kept anyone else from enjoying this “park”

[-] einlander@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/01/05/peoples-park-berkeley-wall-shipping-containers-history

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

fascinating hunger games is having such a cultural resurgence given how shitty everything in our world is. i love the series but christ every scene is dark and depressing

[-] effward@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Didn't a new Hunger Games movie just hit theaters? I assumed most of this stuff was a result of their marketing campaign..

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[-] Feirdro@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Feels prescient, at the moment

[-] xor@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

it's all a direct ripoff from a japanese book and movie...

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[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

New paintball arena just dropped.

[-] LemmySoloHer@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

May the odds be ever in your favor.

[-] Crow@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Gives me infamous vibes.

[-] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Kowloon, the walled city...

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