Fysa, humans are born with moveable skull plates to accommodate brain growth and development after birth. You learn a lot being an active participant in parenting children.
Also brain size correlates weakly with intelligence scores, but is not a major factor.
Incorrect, my mother has the largest vagina. Therefore I am the smartest.
Calm down Dwight
So... Can we collectively infer from that sentence you were birthed or dropped?
Giraffes do the last and it works but unless you present your Giraffe Card, I'm going to default count you as human and being dropped head first into the floor is not good for human newborns.
But if you are indeed a giraffe: how do you type?
Obsessing over brain size and the hip width of women is a big eugenics / white supremacist thing... the kind of thing the nazis were really into... what a surprise to see Musk spouting this kind of bullshit
To be clear, Elon is the idiot in that regard here, and the person he’s replying to, not myself. I understand that perfectly well. If you’re providing this info to the bigots on lemmy at large, good on you then.
And it’s not so much “moveable bones” as it is bones that are still soft and connected by soft fascial sutures called fontanels that harden over time, most likely to make birth easier and to accommodate significant growth for the first stages.
Agreed. Yes, this isn't aimed at you just anyone who may not know about the subject.
I thought that was the case, but thank you for clarifying.
You learn a lot being an active participant in parenting children.
There's the issue, like with most of his ventures, Elon outsources all the actual work.
This instantly made my uterus shrivel up like a dried raisin.
😂 crying rn
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Wow, at least it's better than the "people who had c-sections never gave birth so are not mothers" belief. Still a ridiculous belief, though.
… what?
That’s actually an argument circulating around out there? Just when I thought the debate couldn’t get any lower.
Yeah, as per usual it's hard to tell when people are just trolling or if it's just completely made up, but I've seen it from screenshots of some particularly deranged "moms only" Facebook groups.
All I can do is shake my head at it. Someone carries a child to term, and opts for a manner of birth that was probably safer for their situation, and so the conservative party of family values decides they aren’t technically a mother. That is as dumb and insulting as it can get.
C-section babies can say they were considered important enough to be extracted. (with implications to covert operations)
Not sure if it is actually better. They both seem to be equally horrible and incredibly stupid takes to me.
This fucking guy
Nandor?
That was a trainwreck to read. In slow motion.
Is this him trying to bury this in the search engine results?
In a new Musk biography by Walter Isaacson, which goes into detail about Musk’s life, his relationships, and his children, Grimes reveals that Musk took a photo of her while she was having a C-section for their baby X Æ A-Xii and circulated it without her consent.
More likely just him being stupid and bringing it up in search results more due to some Streisand effect. But your theory is also entirely plausible with him.
Phrenology again?
I don't see what's wrong with Musk's tweet, other than it's by Musk so I'm sure I'm missing some nefarious context.
Any baby born by C-section because their head is too big will move the average up, since they aren't dying during childbirth
You not seeing what's wrong with his tweet means that you already accepted that it was a factually true statement, which it is not. Humanity wasn't been held down by small-brained babies until the advent of the C-section.
Secondarily, what point do you think he's trying to make? I'd bet that it's about humanity being more intelligent now that these giant-brained babies have an alternative escape route. I'd bet all his ill-gained wealth that he was a C-section and he's also bragging about how intelligent he must be. One commenter also already mentioned that Musk is replying to a eugenics-pusher.
It's never a good idea to read something that lacks and requires credible citation and say, "I guess that sounds right." Intentionally or not, you often add that to some folder of "true stuff I read" in your brain and start repeating it back as fact when relevant.
Oh, and Musk is a vile fuckwit.
as we all know, of course, the size of one's head is directly proportional to IQ. Intelligence is famously possible to objectively measure, especially as a single quantity, and IQ is a highly accurate, not at all pseudoscientific measurement of it. So is craniometry.
I get vibes of racist and debunked phrenology.
You mean other than being completely factually wrong?
Brain size hasn’t been historically limited by the size of the birth canal, it doesn’t work like that, most growth takes place after birth. The fact that some children develop faster in the womb and require a c-section doesn’t make it true either.
The context is that he’s replying to a known pusher of eugenics. It’s not completely apparent in the post Elon replied to, but if you see enough of that user’s posts it becomes apparent.
edit: it’s also worth mentioning that sometimes a larger child is simply due to genetics from one parent. I know many very tall, large people whose mothers are very tiny, petite people. It could be considered a miracle when the birth happens naturally in those cases, but doesn’t have anything to do with the child having a larger brain. They’re just generally relatively larger than their mother.
My brother is a 6ft+ white man who married a Mexican woman that's barely 5ft tall. She wanted to do a natural birth for her first son, but he was over 9lbs and was actually tearing her apart. The pain killers weren't working, she had a bunch of infections, they had to take a vacuum to get him out and she didn't get better for at least a year.
She had another two sons with him, the second was 9.6 lbs. The third was 8lbs. They were both c-cection because she wasn't going to go through natural births again.
(And yes, all 3 boys are much taller than their peers, they all inherited my brother's tall gene the oldest is about 15 now and nearing 6ft)
They are normal kids despite their sizes.
One of my best friends in college towered over me and his mom barely came up to my chin. His dad wasn’t even a tall guy either, he just inherited some recessive genes or something. It was a pretty usual thing for him and his mom to be standing side by side and she’d say something out loud like “I have no idea how you ever came out of me.”
Also, our heads are still able to squish together as babies, the bones only solidifying after birth, precisely to get past the birth canal.
Yes, the soft cranial plates and sutures specifically allow for it, which unfortunately can result in brain damage if forceps are used to pull a larger kid out. I know of at least one case where a child never spoke until they eventually got treatments from a craniosacral therapist, and one day just straight asked for a glass of water to the total shock of the parents. They had been learning things normally, but cranial pressure affected the area responsible for speech. Which is one reason why we should be thankful c-sections are a safe option, instead of some conservatives saying people who get them aren’t technically mothers.
It really blows my mind how dumb this guy is. Like holy shit
I... I can't even begin.
I’m 14 and just had this shower thought?
People tweeting stuff. We allow tweets from anyone.
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