You can tell that technology is advancing rapidly because now you can type short-form text on the internet and everybody can read it. Truly innovative stuff.
I wonder if it'll catch on only to get destroyed by political operatives and bots
I got sent an invite ages ago. I've jumped in every so often but I am always shocked by how crap it is. Mastodon is so much better.
IKR? I'm disappointed that most of my favorite artists went there, instead of something like Mastodon
People like to pretend Mastodon is confusing
Mastodon is confusing mostly because it doesn't help you in any way, it just sits there and goes "you have no feeds". Well what am I supposed to do about that?
There doesn't seem to be a "discover" feature so you have to just magically know the usernames people already on the platform and then add them.
This is at the top of all of the mastodon servers I have an account on. If someone lacks the curiosity to click the word explore, then that is on them, not on the tech.
If someone lacks the curiosity to click the word explore
The cries of every dev throughout programming history. Why are the users so stupid?
But the thing is, uses are stupid. People get confused if you put "sign in" instead of "log in'. If lots of people think that Mastodon is confusing then Mastodon is confusing. The consensus cannot be wrong. You might disagree with it but it cannot be wrong.
It requires a UX overhaul by someone who actually understands UX and researches it. I used to do UX as my job specialization and trust me everyone thinks it's easy and it isn't.
Pretend? I'm a computer nerd and I put off signing up for Mastodon for months because of how complicated it is. I completely understand why normies nope the hell off.
Im an idiotic old man who can barely repair my PC anymore and it was very easy to make an account here and on mastodon. Dunno what people are on about.
It's not creating the account that is the problem. It's learning what you should know about the instance you choose, then choosing an instance, and understanding how the federation of posts work. Etc.
What people don't understand is that you're the algorithm on mastodon. You're doing the work.
I'm on it and it's actually my best experience on social media for a long long time. People are nice and discussions aren't toxic like on others. But, it comes with the cost to be the algorithm.
This is ridiculous. Please turn in your nerd card.
More like people like to act smug and pretend it isn't.
I found it and Lemmy frustrating to get started tbh. Besides the flagship instances early on finding a server I could actually join was a lot of research and trial and error.
As an amateur artist, mastodon is really not friendly to newcomers like me.
I had to figure out what an instance was and pick one (I chose mastodon.art since I was interested in that)
After wondering why I couldn't find other people's accounts, it turned out that I shouldn't have picked that instance because it had defederated from almost anyone else.
So now I had to create another account in another instance, which turned out to be so full my posts were not getting any traction.
With Bluesky I just created an account and I immediately gained a few followers
It is just not worth the hastle.
I don't get the hate, I've been there for a year and the place is pretty cool with many writers and artists that aren't on Mastodon. It feels like twitter on the good days. Maybe if you curate your friend list better you would get a better timeline?
Mastodon is great if you want a social media site that'll have people shout at you for not putting a Content Warning on a post about you eating a ham sandwich.
They missed their chances. When I got the invite a few weeks ago, I did no longer care, because I already switched to Lemmy. There's no place for Bluesky anymore, they missed the Twitter exodus and the Reddit one. They should've send my code years ago but didn't. Such a fail of a company.
I deleted my Bluesky account because no one who i invited used it. And bluesky invites are not even hot anymore, the last time i posted a bunch online no one grabbed them.
Mastodon and Lemmy fills my void enough i don't need extra places to go
I only got on Bluesky a couple of months ago after a long wait, and honestly I don't think I've been on there once since setting up the account. A trickle of my Twitter contacts seemed to move over there in the early days but the trickle dried up and it doesn't look like many people are on there.
I hope it still finds a niche for itself, but the ridiculous invite rationing thing really does seem to have killed the momentum for them.
I've also lost interest in Mastodon, although again I'm willing to give it another go if it continues to grow. Mostly I've just found that I don't really need to replace Twitter in my life; I'm just fine without it...
Can someone explain to me how Bluesky is different than Mastodon and if it’s not different why they bothered creating it when Mastodon exists? I truly don’t get it.
It’s likely that when Bluesky rolls out in full, advertisers will have the ability to place ads in networks or user interest groups similar to Reddit’s framework. This user self-selection will be extremely useful to businesses running targeted campaigns.
https://marketvantage.com/blog/what-does-bluesky-mean-for-advertising/
So…Mastodon…with ads?
Give Gargron time he'll add ads and buddy up with Meta while signing mystery NDAs
i don't see what similarities to mastodon it has
They built their own federated protocol and it's a microblog
less confusing to sign up and use, nice clean looking app, same look and feel as the OG twitter
You could build all that on top of Mastodon too though. E.g mozilla.social uses Firefox accounts to sign in and the Elk theme.
Mostly just the protocol. Mastodon uses ActivityPub. Bluesky uses some other shit.
Atprotocol.
Mastodon and activitypub is very much like social media implemented in the form of public email lists implemented over HTTP (push massages between servers).
Bluesky uses content addressing (think magnet links for torrents, but for linking to post data) and pull mechanism with notifications, plus public shared archive nodes (CDN-like servers).
The main difference is that you're much more independent of individual servers and can easily move your account around, since your account ID is tied to a cryptographic key belonging to your account which you bring with you along with your post archive, and your handle can be based on a domain name you own (also works as a verification mechanism you don't have to pay extra for).
I got my "early" invite code a couple weeks ago and it was pretty cool finding accounts I'd previously followed on Twitter... and seeing how they haven't posted in months
its kind of crazy to me how many people are moving over to that place. on one hand i appreciate that it's somewhat containing twitter culture ~~protecting much better new socials like cohost~~ but on the other, it is frustrating to have no access to so many people who switched to blue sky's with its bizarre and abrubt popularity as an alternative platform despite being diet fediverse.
Yeah but note by "public" they really mean "if the post doesn't require you to login". They recently implemented a feature that lets users choose for their posts to be "public" but still require a login to see it.
The API is pretty much fully open, look up the firehose api for bluesky. This change just allows easy linking
Why are people here, on this federated platform, excited for a centralized twitter clone that will eventually, inevitably, succumb to the same fate?
A billionaire proof social network run by a billionaire. Federated only with itself. Has a .xyz domain name.
I feel like I'm living in an episode of Silicon Valley.
I wonder why they keep their platform so closed off. It'll never ever go anywhere if people can't even use it.
All it has to do is copy Twitter when it was good some years ago, and do it very reliably. That's it.
What do y'all think we can learn or adapt from Bluesky's protocol(s)/innovations?
Invite codes for so instances dont have to be approval only it can be approval and invite
Subdomain based usernames instead of two @‘s like @nix.merv.news as my username so every OS doesnt think its an email when clicking. Plus its easier because I can just share nix.merv.news and people can just click it and go to it.
Being able to change your @ without losing your posts. Being able to keep your followers if your instance goes down
I got my invite and quickly deleted it when I found out that everyone there loved James Gunn and came at me for pointing out he can't be the flagship celeb to advertise the platform. My notifications blew up for days. It wasn't worth sticking around getting harassed when I'm not the bad person!
Deleted mine. Nothing ever happened then the big news was some guy from Lockheed Martin was being a sex pest towards women by getting them to pity him, starting to think bluesky doesn't attract the best people
The public feed is 99% naked furries and you have to click their profile to see more naked furries to mute them. No thanks.
oh good
First time I'm seeing what it looks like. Looks exactly like Twitter.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
If you want to prevent people who aren’t logged in from seeing your posts, you can “discourage” that by clicking a toggle in settings.
But Bluesky notes that “other apps may not honor this request” and that the toggle doesn’t make your account private.
Previously, the app’s logo was a blue sky with clouds, but “early on, we noticed that people were organically using the butterfly emoji 🦋 to indicate their Bluesky handles,” Graber says in the blog post.
And, as spotted by my colleague Parker Ortolani, the app has a fun animation that will feel familiar to fans of Twitter.
With the increasing momentum behind ActivityPub — including the very public support from Meta’s Threads — I’ve worried that Bluesky, which is based on its own AT Protocol, might get left behind.
But every time I hop over to my Bluesky account, it seems like people are having a lot of fun — the platform seems to be growing quickly, too — so hopefully the protocols can co-exist and usher in a fediverse future.
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