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[-] joeyv120@ttrpg.network 407 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The Israeli government is murdering children and committing war crimes, and they're upset about what The Onion has to say about it.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 181 points 11 months ago

They are targeting the press, they really care about public opinion

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 147 points 11 months ago

They're also full on slaughtering the press too.

So a rundown of what they're doing

  1. Killing 2 civilians for every 1 Hamas
  2. Killing children (50% of Gaza is under 18)
  3. Killing journalists

They're 100% correct Hamas needs to be wiped out because Hamas wants Jews to not exist, but goddamn the ends to not justify the means.

They've lost the fucking plot.

Mark my words anti-Semitism is going to continue it's crescendo and it's 100% because of the IDF and that asshat running Israel.

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 31 points 11 months ago

Hamas charter excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

[-] GhostedIC@sh.itjust.works 22 points 11 months ago

Good to know they uphold this text by not publicly murdering and raping random civilians in their homes and proudly sharing the video.

[-] Baahb@feddit.nl 18 points 11 months ago

The IDF also says it's not genociding. Military groups are known for their trustworthiness

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[-] Rozauhtuno 43 points 11 months ago

Reminds me of that time Winnie the Poo got mad at some random child making fun of him on tiktok

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[-] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 303 points 11 months ago

The ironic thing is, conflating any and all criticism of the state of Israel with anti-semitism could be argued as anti-semitic itself, because to suggest that jewish people in general and the Israeli state/military are one in the same such that criticism of the later is also hateful towards the former, is also to suggest that jewish people as a whole are responsible for the actions of Israel.

As cultural groups as a whole are inherently unable to be guilty of crimes (since even if a large number of people belonging to one commit some crime, such a group will also contain members that cannot be guilty of it, like young children), but states and similar entities, being organized and capable of decision-making, can be, then any attempt to link the moral culpability of a state and that of a cultural group is inherently to apply unfair accusations to that group, and thus hateful to it.

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[-] gerowen@lemmy.world 130 points 11 months ago

I think a big part of it, here in the US, is besides all the post WW2 sentiment, a lot of folks here in the bible belt literally think they are God's chosen people, and so whatever they do is right by God, no matter how terrible. I recently showed up for jury duty and was speaking to a lady there about her son who had joined the Marine Corps. and thought he might get deployed, and she said, I shit you not, "At least he'll be fighting for God's people".

I've seen antisemitism. I've been in online communities that slowly devolved into rat caricatures and conspiracy theories about how Jews are out to destroy the world. So I know that modern antisemitism persists and is a thing to watch out for. But it's not antisemitic to admit that Zionist Israel is butchering innocent people because they want to claim all of Palestine for themselves, and that the west is too weak willed to do anything about it for fear of being called antisemitic, or going against "God's chosen people". That's not antisemitism, it's an objective, observable fact.

[-] derf82@lemmy.world 47 points 11 months ago

The even bigger issue is the Bible Belt is those moron’s reading of Revelation, which has them thinking Israel has to control Jerusalem for the rapture to happen.

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[-] Vytle@lemmy.world 121 points 11 months ago

Bro can i just say that i fucking hate that anti-semetic is even an argument used when someone demonstrates support for Hamas? it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

[-] SasquatchBanana@lemmy.world 150 points 11 months ago

I think there is a very good argument of antisemitism if you support Hamas. There is no argument for antisemitism if you support Palestinians.

[-] Custodian1623@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Colloquially yeah it makes a lot of sense to say Hamas is antisemitic, the word means hatred for Jews regardless of the etymology of 'semite'. Take it up with marriam-webster, not the people correctly using the modern definition of the word

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago

Hamas Charter, excerpt.
16. Hamas affirms that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the Jews because of their religion. Hamas does not wage a struggle against the Jews because they are Jewish but wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine. Yet, it is the Zionists who constantly identify Judaism and the Jews with their own colonial project and illegal entity.

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[-] misophist@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

it doesnt even make sense because by definition both parties are semetic.

Oof, either you're just grossly misinformed and performing a cringey "ackchually", or you're anti-semitic yourself and perpetuating anti-semitic rhetoric.

While yes, both are Semitic people, the term 'anti-semitic' was specifically coined by Nazi Germany to make their genocide seem like it had a basis in science. They specifically used it to refer to Jews. Nobody uses "anti-semitic" to mean all semites except hate groups and holocaust deniers who are trying to say "see, it doesn't even mean Jews specifically! Jews are just playing the victim!"

I will assume you're simply ignorant or misinformed, but feel free to correct me if this was actually an intentional dog-whistle.

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[-] PanArab@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago

Golda Meir once said "After the Holocaust, Jews are free to do whatever they want".

Since then, Palestinians have been paying for the crimes of Nazi Germany.

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 53 points 11 months ago

Best take on this. A lot of Jewish people said “we must never let this happen again,” but some motherfuckers took notes.

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 39 points 11 months ago

Everyone post-WW2: "Never again"

  • Some people: "Never again should that be inflicted on anyone"
  • Other people: "Never again should that be inflicted on the Jewish"
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[-] germanatlas 31 points 11 months ago

"We must learn from the past" vs "We must learn from the past"

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[-] JustUseMint@lemmy.world 84 points 11 months ago

The scary part is they very much may just do that. NSO Group is based outta Israel, it's honestly terrifying. The man has much larger balls than some may realize.

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[-] SnotFlickerman 65 points 11 months ago

DARVO

The battle cry of abusive assholes, worldwide!

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago
[-] KpntAutismus@lemmy.world 30 points 11 months ago

if anything, it was probably a death threat.

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[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Astoundingly based

[-] cupcakezealot 26 points 11 months ago

wasn't that the account that was posting all sorts of transphobia right before oct 7th and they switched?

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