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submitted 10 months ago by NOSin@lemmy.world to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

And that they will federate with them ? (Can't seem to find it anymore at least)

I wonder how many people we're gonna lose over this, because I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time. I already migrated once, I'm not gonna do it again because some people can't realize how toxic it's going to be when they federate with us.

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ? Or maybe I'm missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

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[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 10 months ago

I see a lot of people saying they'll just switch instances but haven't seen anyone say they'll just jump ship, am I alone ?

I have switched instances a lot. I don't like the idea of other people curating my feed.

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 28 points 10 months ago

I made my own instance for this reason.

[-] AnneBonny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago

I have considered it.

[-] lastjinn@lemmings.world 7 points 10 months ago

Is it expensive? Considering doing it myself

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I had a spare computer that I installed Linux on a while back, but wasn't using it for much at the time. If set up like that, all you would pay for is the electricity, which is very low if you're only running Lemmy, probably only a couple of US dollars a month. You could probably run it on a raspberry pi, tbh.

Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Personally, I have solar panels that power my whole house. So it's free for me.

The dream. I want to do this too when I buy my house, but living in northern Scandinavia makes it hard to run off solar during the winter.

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[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 67 points 10 months ago

I don't think the world admins really care if users transfer away. That's just federation in action. Good stuff.

[-] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 42 points 10 months ago

World admin playing 4d chess by showing the benefit of account migration in activitypub.

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

My original concern about "losing people" wasn't about transferring away, but rather about leaving the fediverse entirely over the concern of having to remake an account and having to curate up to my standards all over again. Which is now a moot point since I've been given solutions to migrate easily.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 10 points 10 months ago

Oh gotcha. I'd suppose that if a person is that concerned with Threads, they're probably invested in the idea of Lemmy such that transferring to another instance is not out of the question. Someone who's not interested in putting in the effort to transfer probably doesn't feel strongly either way about Threads. That's just an assumption on my part, of course.

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[-] skeezix@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

Where you gonna go? Back to reddit?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Outside, maybe? lol

Edit: ~~Weird, my comment started at -1 karma. Is this thread being botted or something?~~ Oh I accidentally downvoted myself.....

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[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Since it's a moot point now, it's not a consideration anymore but ew no, that wasn't even an option in the first place.

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[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 43 points 10 months ago

The new 0.19.x version allows you to export and import your basic settings like subscriptions and blocks. I personally haven't tested it though.

Otherwise, here on lemmy, activity from threads is unlikely to reach us or have too much of an impact as following lemmy communities won't work well on their end. This presumes that they'll be focused on implementing microblogging and mastodon compatibility, which are very fair presumptions IMO. Not saying that you shouldn't care ... just that there's probably much more time than you think. On top of that, Threads's implementation of federation seems to be going slowly.

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the infos

I will see how it actually turns out, and yeah I didn't expect an instant "everything turn to crap" moment, but good to know that there's an option to easily migrate if need be. Although just the idea of them having any kind of access via federation really bothers me and I somewhat doubt they won't try something to "absorb" as much people as they can into Threads, that something having many possibilities in how it could manifest.

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[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 35 points 10 months ago

It’s possible in the latest version of Lemmy. World hasn’t upgraded yet. They are also already federated with threads.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

And as OP seems to be predicting, the world has clearly ended. 😅

(not that I don't have plenty issues with Meta, but the way lemmings talk about it only serves to further corporate agenda by essentially making all criticism seem idiotic by association)

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

To each their own reasons to care or not about being federated with Threads, it's not what this post is about.

My line about how toxic it's gonna be is my opinion and admittedly might not have its place here in the context, but I'm only a human making a post, wondering if I'm alone or if I'm missing an option for an easy migration.

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[-] sj_zero@lotide.fbxl.net 28 points 10 months ago

Threads federation really is a tempest in a teacup. People getting worked up over nothing.

Meta's failed twitter clone probably won't even federate with the threadiverse. Just look at this post. I see lemmy, I see kbin, I see lotide, I don't see mastodon, pleroma, friendica, and so on and so forth at all. I don't see minds (did you know that minds federates?), just a few programs of the same type.

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[-] JustSomePerson@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

I for one, spent time blocking what I wanted to, to curate my feed, and it took time.

If that is your general approach, why are you suddenly so eager to hand over that responsibility to the instance owner? Why are you pushing for that instances should curate the feeds of all their users, rather than the users themselves?

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

Fallacy much ?

Because I don't want to be federated with threads doesn't mean I want to hand over the curating to the instance owner, there's such a thing as nuances.

I also formulated a wish for world to defederate, but my solution when they didn't is to leave, you don't see me brigading for them to absolutely do it, so please do not lend to me what I didn't say.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Then you can block threads yourself, as a user. It's as easy as that. Blocking threads on the entire instance makes it so admins are curating content for users. You don't get a choice when an instance defederates, you do when it federates. Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Calling defederating Threads a "panic kneejerk reaction" is being very ignorant about who they are and what they do.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

It is exactly that. Nothing happened yet, and people were calling for defederation already. It is a panic reaction.

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

So you are very ignorant about who's behind Threads, how they operate and what they do, roger

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

And you are very panicked, going off of the "slippery slope" fallacy and basically doomsaying, got it.

I told you already - block them yourself. Nothing changes for you, and people who want an actual userbase to interact with aren't blocked by it.

[-] NOSin@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Calling very justified wariness about Threads "doomsaying" is naive, at best.

If I let you keep going you're about to tell me that Facebook and Instagram aren't that bad, so let's stop here.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I said it before, two times actually. Block them and move on with your life. Other people want to interact with threads.

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[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 months ago

If we are not on Facebook or others its not for nothing. Theses reaction are not panic 🙄.

Politics, convictions, ideology are words too.

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

These reactions are for nothing. I personally don't want to be a part of a dead social network with just the extreme kinds of people. This is an opportunity for the fediverse to grow and diversify. All that people are doing is being scared of any change - which is a dumb approach to it. When there is a reason to defederate - then defederate. Don't do it "because it's meta".

[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah yeah, why are you here and not on reddit, if I read u. Lmao.

End of the discuss for me with you. You can DV now, you reddit user ;-)

And next time, answer instead of going around BC you are "wrong"

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Yeah, you are just discussing in bad faith or are a weak troll, I don't care either way.

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[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Learn how the tool works before.

If you block an instance, u can still interract with the users (with the new features), and they can comment posts on others instances and yours, and you will see them.

You will just don't see the Thread specific content.

You are the jerk here

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Great job insulting me. I can perfectly fine block people from a specific instance and not see their posts or comments at all.

[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah yeah individually, block the billion from thread. Lmao. Don't say you are wrong, when you are.
🙄

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[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 months ago

Defederation is a last resort, not a panic kneejerk reaction.

🙄🙄

[-] Maalus@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Yes that's how the fediverse works :)

[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 10 months ago
[-] capital@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago
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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 15 points 10 months ago

Threads won't affect Lemmy that much. Threads users will basically have to deliberately interact with Lemmy posts or communities to show up.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 14 points 10 months ago

Or maybe I’m missing an option that would allow me to transfer all my settings from one instance to another ?

https://github.com/CMahaff/lasim

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[-] Yerbouti@lemmy.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Join us on lemmy.ml! Small and chill instance. Most people are nice left leaning FOSS geeks, interactions are mostly super nice. The only thing I dislike is the Chappo Trap House community, they will basically bully anyone who's not a chappo-bro. I blocked them and voilà ! EDIT: Lol, why am I getting downvoted ?

[-] willya@lemmyf.uk 10 points 10 months ago

There’s a lot of negatives surrounding moderating on that instance and I’m sure the community you mentioned doesn’t help.

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[-] EdgeRunner@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Let Lemmy.world die Alone and leave them.
They dont care about ideology or others, they are juste sharky and want to make for them a name on the work of others.

I see it like it,

[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago

I'm having trust issues with them. I had an issue with them in their support community where they most likely deleted comments and then wouldn't own up, and now I'm at another instance. I would have left when they said they wouldn't defederate threads anyway. Leaving isn't that hard. If .19 gets figured out, you're supposed to be able to leave easily as well.

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[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 6 points 10 months ago

Can't you block threads.net as a user?

CC BY-NC-SA 4.0

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