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Not sure if this is 100% scientifically backed but I read a bit by a dental hygienist on a forum that you shouldn't rinse when brushing with proper toothpaste because it can help remineralize the teeth if when its not rinsed away after

Its annoying but its a good way to cut down on mindless snacking at the very least for me so its something I do sometimes. Hope its not voodoo

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[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 44 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Get an electric toothbrush. Don't push hard, just slowly move it and hold it gently against your teeth / gums in each spot.

If you hate flossing like I do, a waterpik is helpful.

Brush twice a day.

Don't rinse after brushing like you said.

[-] StopSpazzing@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

Waterpik is not a replacement for flossing, fyi

[-] Shadow@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 months ago

No but it's better than nothing.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago

Waterpik is nifty, but I found a solution that works well in conjunction with it, but without the frustration of flossing . Gum Proxabrush are little brushes that go between your teeth to scrub out the gunk. My hygienist was saying they work better than floss. I've really liked them.

[-] Zorg@lemmings.world 10 points 9 months ago

My teeth are so tight I can sometimes barely get floss down between them. A brush would have no chance of cleaning the whole sides of the teeth.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago

You may already know, but Glide by oralb is great for tight teeth. It's flatter and slippery. The only issue I've found is that it snaps more often.

[-] Zorg@lemmings.world 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I loved that floss! Right up until I found it's so good because it's coated in Teflon.

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

Fuck. Thanks I guess?.. now I need new floss

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[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

~~Doesn't the WaterPik sort of negate the don't rinse thing, or are you saying less is more in terms of water getting in the way of remineralization and you net benefit from using that for flossing. I definitely prefer it over physical floss~~

Use flosser first, THEN brush without rinsing. Got it 😁

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

You can do the WaterPik before brushing and then don’t rinse after brushing.

[-] ArghZombies@lemmy.world 29 points 9 months ago

All the advances in toothcare seems to be around fancier electric brushes or other gadgets, but regardless we've never been able to move away from 'brush for 2 minutes'. I want some fancy device I just bite down on and it zaps my whole mouth clean in 5 seconds.

[-] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

a UV flashbang pill? multi-laser drone?? Never ask an AI for dental products again?

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 6 points 9 months ago

Just pull the transformer out of your microwave, aim it at your face, and open your mouth

[-] UnpopularCrow@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

I spoke with a dental hygienist in a hot tub once (that’s how you know this information is solid). She did say to avoid rinsing or mouthwash after brushing with fluoride toothpaste. She also wasn’t a huge fan of alcohol mouthwash in general as it kills both good and bad bacteria. Too bad because I really do enjoy the “burn” feeling when I use it.

[-] Dexx1s@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

I've heard both, but I can't not rinse after brushing. Any taste of actual toothpaste in my mouth is unsettling to me.

[-] LordOfTheChia@lemmy.world 24 points 9 months ago

Just let it sit for 10-15 minutes, then reward yourself by washing it down with a cup of fresh orange juice.

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[-] Catoblepas 4 points 9 months ago

I was told by my dental hygienist that although you shouldn’t rinse after brushing, you can spit as many times as you want. Your saliva isn’t going to be able to totally rinse off the fluoride the way water will. IME it usually only takes a few extra spits to get from overwhelmingly minty to present but bearable.

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[-] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 months ago

You get used to it after a while. The taste of the toothpaste subsides pretty quickly as well, so it's not like an extended period of suffering.

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[-] ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Electric toothbrush. The hygenist often says she can tell I tell I take care of my teeth, but really, I usually only brush and floss once a day.

[-] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Is there a concern about using it too soon after eating and it wearing away enamel or the teeth mechanically? Particularly acidic stuff which i tend to limit but that notion's been a bit of a procedural lodestar for me when it comes to, like, which kind of + toothbrush I use

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 7 points 9 months ago

You can get electric tooth brushes that will turn a red alert light on if you push too hard. Wearing down your teeth by an electric toothbrush is not more of a concern than using a manual one.

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I used an e-brush for all my life and only got cavities from lack of brushing and being negligent.

But you shouldn't brush right after eating.
Eat something, wait 30min, then brush.
That's how I do it for breakfast.

[-] ExtraMedicated@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

I thought I heard something about that but I don't really know. The main thing with electric brushes is that you should brush gently and slowly. Let the brush do most of the work.

[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Rinsing with salt water seems to work well for me. I have no idea what the science says about it though. But there is some talk in new treatments about ionizing stimulating healing, and I wouldn't be surprised if salt water does a bit of that too.?
I also wouldn't be surprised if it helps remineralize. Very subjectively it feels like it does a little, but it's easy to fool oneself with wishful thinking. Preferably have a dentist monitor results.

[-] TheBiscuitLout@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

My hygienist recommended that I use salt water instead of mouthwash, so I’d think you’re probably barking up the right tree

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[-] MrsDoyle@lemmy.world 13 points 9 months ago

My dental hygienist told me not to rinse. "You're paying for the fluoride, why wash it away?" Makes sense. The dentist told me not to use mouthwash, because it upsets the mouth's natural pH.

My biggest find lately is silicon toothpick thingies - interdental brushes. They get to crevices floss can't reach.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 11 points 9 months ago

Tips I have learned over the years. In priority order.

  1. Buy a sonicare toothbrush. They are supposed to be better than even Oral B because of the sound waves they produce. May seem expensive but far cheaper than almost any dental procedure. Studies have shown that electric toothbrushes clean better than manual.
  2. Brush daily.
  3. If you cannot brush one day at least use a flouride mouthwash.
  4. Do not use water on your toothbrush. Something in water hinders the effectiveness of flouride.
  5. Do not rinse your mouth with water after brushing. Leave that toothpaste on your teeth.
  6. Buy a water pik and use it. They clean better than flossing.
[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah you swallow all that sweet fluoride, tin, titanium and other shit in your toothpaste. I've never had a cavity and will continue to rinse

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 12 points 9 months ago

It's a very small quantity of stuff that your body can easily manage to break down or expel. And you not having a cavity ever is just survivorship bias.

[-] arin@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

There's a number for poison control on the tube if you do not want to rinse

[-] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 5 points 9 months ago

I have never seen this but I may not have noticed - is this an American thing?

In any case, that's only there in case a child gulps down the whole tube, which might indeed be bad. Doesn't mean a small quantity is bad.

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[-] timetravel@lemmings.world 11 points 9 months ago

Waterpik, both between the teeth and then the low power gum one, followed by rinsing with Listerine complete, takes such good care of my gingivitis that I don't even need to get cleanings for plaque anymore. I might scrape some off every 6 months or a year if even. I used to get migraines from it daily, then needed cleaning every 6 months. Total game changer

[-] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 9 months ago

Yep, you shouldn't rinse your mouth, because a proper toothpaste has fluoride, which helps remineralize enamel. Keep in mind it won't restore already decayed enamel though.

Anyway, I am not that sure about electric toothbrushes. At least it's not necessary. On Wednesday when I've been on dental check-up, I asked my dentist whether electric toothbrush would be a good idea. She said "Well... it can be... but you already do pretty good job of cleaning your teeth, so I just recommend you stick to that." I just use a regular toothbrush. However, just the brushing does take me a while. About 10-12 minutes. Yeah.

Well, something that could be a tip is xylitol chewing gum. Most sugar-free gums use xylitol. It is artificial sweetener that's actually good for teeth. It helps remineralize teeth like fluoride, remove plaque build up, and it kills acid-producing bacteria. That is because the bacteria consumes it like regular sugar, but it can't process it, so it just dies. You can also buy xylitol as a powder, because it's, well, a sweetener.

Now to the disadvantages of xylitol: Consuming larger amounts (I think it's just around 25g) can cause diarrhea and cramps. It is also extremely toxic to dogs. Just 100mg/1kg can cause them seizures and 500mg/1kg can cause death. Obviously that's just approximate, so keep your dog away from xylitol.

Disclaimer: I am not a professional in this field.

[-] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 9 months ago

10-12 minutes????? You're going to get toothbrush abraisions

[-] HollandJim@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

Electric toothbrushes are excellent for stimulating the gums and keeping them in good order so they don’t recede. The Sonicare are especially good for this reason.

[-] bakachu@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago

I do the xylitol gum! I think countries in asia regularly markets this as part of good dental hygiene for those reasons you listed. Some of the gum containers advertise, white healthy teeth. Not sure why the US doesn't promote xylitol gum more.

[-] spacecowboy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

The USA wants sick and diseased citizens because it’s good for the economy.

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Waterpik Sonic Fusion. I brush before bed, and wake up feeling almost "from the dentist" clean. Also the whole thing has timers so I don't have to worry about that.

[-] bakachu@sh.itjust.works 9 points 9 months ago

This is for all my floss-averse people out there: put floss plackers in your car. I floss way more this way than in front of my sink. Yes, not optimal dental hygiene but there's just something that just clicks in my head and makes me want to do it when driving around vs literally any other time.

[-] Easyy@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

bro.... PLEASE do not do anything but driving while driving!!!!

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[-] leraje 8 points 9 months ago

Try not to accidentally lose your gum shield in a scrum, ruck or maul.

[-] Elephant0991@lemmy.bleh.au 6 points 9 months ago

Listerine seems to help remove plaque effectively. Since start using it in the middle of the night when I wake up, not getting regularly cleaned doesn't seem to be a problem anymore. This is coupled with flossing and thorough brushing of course.

[-] Ferrous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

Haven't there been talks of a link between mouthwash and throat/mouth cancer?

[-] Elephant0991@lemmy.bleh.au 4 points 9 months ago

There seem to be published scientific paper that some scientists disagreed. There are alcohol-free mouthwashes too.

[-] sarchar@programming.dev 4 points 9 months ago

Avoid as much sucrose as possible. It is the #1 cause of tooth decay.

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