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It's so frustrating that something anybody even only peripherally aware of attempts to automate driving knew for years is only slowly coming out while the Apartheid Edgelord gets richer and richer from his lethal lies.

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[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 101 points 10 months ago

As a coda: Tesla Drivers Upset That Government Wants Their Cars to Be Safer

“Got to love government always making things less enjoyable,” tweeted a disappointed customer on Wednesday.

Apparently driving on misplaced faith that kills people is enjoyable. Tesla is a cult, not a car company.

[-] mateomaui@reddthat.com 63 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This was funny tho

Particularly peeved was a man who tweeted: “So now it will become more of a nag. Between it and my wife I almost can’t use it. I will be stepping up my nagging defeat efforts. Been using [Autopilot] since 2015. I don’t need more nagging!”

I do not feel sorry for him.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago

All the chucklefucks that think musk isn't just a dull normal are cultists.

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It turns out that when a human uses a “driving assistance” system that steers, brakes and accelerates for them, sometimes they stop paying attention to the road.

Ironically, the safest thing to drive is a 20 year old car with no modern safety equipment and a manual transmission.

Edit: New numbers just dropped. Teslas crash more than everything else, despite having the lowest DUI rate.

[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 39 points 10 months ago

I might accept the manual transmission since you have to be a bit more engaged to actually make the car drive but the rest? Nah man. A modern car that isn't self driving but has lane assist, backup cameras, and auto brakes is going to just be inherently more safe.

A tesla where people are napping behind the wheel? Obviously a bit too far with tech that isn't quite there.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Agreed.

Here in the EU my insurance gave me a rebate for every safety feature, and that's not charity, simply them looking at the statistics. A lot of this stuff is now also legally required on new cars.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

A tesla where people are napping behind the wheel? Obviously a bit too far with tech that isn’t ~~quite~~ anywhere near there.

Fixed that for you.

[-] signor@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I disagree with back up cameras, seems people don’t have any special awareness anymore and just stare at that screen, but maybe with those monster trucks it can help some.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Spatial* and back up cameras are infinitely better than craning your head around back and forth and staring through a tiny back window, needing to hope that there isn't an object below bumper height.

Just because something is on a screen doesn't make it worse.

[-] RaincoatsGeorge@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

That's fair.

[-] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Say "I can't read statistics" without using those words.

[-] sugartits@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Categorically untrue.

[-] CustodialTeapot@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

SWWWINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGggggggggggg and a big miss.

[-] WashedOver@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago

I believe this is big money after asking my friend if they were affected by this recall in Canada. She says no, as she didn't pay the extra $10,000cdn for the autopilot option on her Model 3.

So is the math $10,000 x 2 million units that have the option? If so no wonder why he was able to buy Twitter...

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

IIRC, and they may have changed this practice (feel free to correct me Tesla fanboys), all cars ship with the autopilot hardware, wouldn't be shocked if they're all considered affected.

[-] ImFresh3x@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago

Why is the stock up though on recall news?

[-] Elshender@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

Teslas stock has always been a bit fucky. Their market cap (total value of all their shares) is greater than Toyota, Volkswagen, Daimler, Ford, and GM combined. It's crazy inflated imo.

[-] brlemworld@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Autopilot/FSD is such a tiny part of the business. The "recall" costs basically nothing to rectify.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Fixing a flaw that's killed people isn't trivial just bc it's a software update. One day soon, Tesla's stock is going to get an OTA correction.

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