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[-] gregorum@lemm.ee 94 points 11 months ago

It’s pretty dumb when record companies limit distribution by region like this.

[-] AcidTwang@kbin.social 34 points 11 months ago

It's totally dumb because it's not about getting a good deal for consumers or artists, purely about rights-holders maximising revenue. If they can't negotiate a good enough deal in a region they'll simply not allow it to be streamed. This is what happens when they separate the cultural value of "content" from the monetary value of it, the perceived desirability. Viewers and listeners want a good show to watch or album to hear, rights-holders simply want to get a good deal, regardless of what the stuff it.

[-] ebc@lemmy.ca 28 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I once discovered an artist, even bought some albums, only to notice about a year later that the place I discovered them was now blocked in my country. If I would've come a year later, I would never have bought these albums.

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[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 68 points 11 months ago

This youtube link contains a tracking code ?si=.... Remember to remove it next time.

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 44 points 11 months ago

Quick guide that's been shared around online lately for those unsure what this is:

[-] BlastboomStrice@mander.xyz 10 points 11 months ago

Nice link you have there as an example :)

[-] jherazob@beehaw.org 10 points 11 months ago

You know the rules and so do I

[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

this bothered me for a long time about youtube links. thanks for the incredible infographic

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 47 points 11 months ago

It's as if they're asking to be pirated.

[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

they're asking for you to hand over your wallet, repeatedly

[-] takeda@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago

Quoting Cyberpunk 2077: fuck corpos

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 20 points 11 months ago

Most of my music is "pirated" because you can't find it on any streaming platform, it's usually a YT download, often for game OSTs (often ones I own a copy of), and offline play allows stuff like Music Speed Changer to change the pitch and speed of the music!

[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Ahh remember the good ol times when you could insert a jrpg cd into a cd player and could listen to all the music.

[-] gohixo9650@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 11 months ago

650MB CD media. The game itself was 40-50MB and the rest 500-600MB was the audio in wav (CD player compatible) type

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[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

I see more often than I'd like to see retconned and greyed out releases in my playlist...
The fuck am I paying them.
God do I hate those publisher licensing agreements.

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[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Whenever I release music myself, I actively block it in Russia, because they relentlessly steal my trance / freeform releases and upload them in warez sites.

Of course geoblocking can be circumvented by a determined pirate but it helps to not be on their radar in first place as a lesser known artist.

As an example, once I released a freeform album. Freeform is a very niche, small scene. It was on Russian forums within a couple of days. Fortunately one of my fans notified me, I had a Russian friend contact the site on my behalf to explain that I'm a poor struggling artist, and they're literally taking money out of my pocket; to my surprise they agreed to take the links down.

[-] noahimesaka1873@lemmy.funami.tech 26 points 11 months ago

Bruh this is piracy community, fuck geoblock

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Pirating from massive companies who exploit their workers and customers is different from pirating small indie artists, surely?

[-] Apollo2323@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

Yes it is different in my opinion. If you have a fair and easy way to pay for your product I will buy it.

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Exactly. I had a 12 track album up for £9, or single tracks for 99p, don't think that's unreasonable!

[-] The_v@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

They have proven many times over that pirating/accessibility have inverse relationship.

My most frustrating example was when I needed one song for a project my wife was working on a long time ago. I looked to try to purchase it online and could only find it on iTunes. In order to purchase from iTunes you had to download the application and install it. However I had an old machine running Linux... By the time I figured this all out I had spent 2 hours trying to pay $0.99 for one song. I could not find an approved way to do it. So I went the alternative route and had the song in under 5 minutes.

They keep pushing accessibility down recently. I am not playing their games again. When they want to be reasonable they will get paid.

[-] Gormadt 7 points 11 months ago

Having a sale price adjusted for local currency would likely go a long way, and I don't mean just a price conversion I mean an adjusted sale price. Some regions 9£ is a lot of money vs their monthly income and others it's not much at all.

Not so much currently (in the case of Russia) as you likely can't sell it there due to sanctions, but in general that would help a lot in boosting sales vs piracy.

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

I agree. I think people have taken my comment as a defence of the geoblocking, was just offering an example of why someone like a small indie musician may choose to do that. I do find it frustrating when I have to VPN to a different country to watch a video.

But the reason I geoblock one country isn't to be an arsehole, it's because Russia has no recourse for indie musicians like myself who have their music stolen. They have no law preventing music theft which is why it's rampant in that one territory (not saying it doesn't ever happen elsewhere). Pretty much the entire rest of the world has some sort of avenue where I can issue something like a dmca.

[-] quirzle@kbin.social 14 points 11 months ago

they’re literally taking money out of my pocket

That'd be pretty hard to do over the internet.

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Ah come on you know what I meant.

[-] justcallmelarry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 11 months ago

Did the sales increase as an effect of them taking it down?

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Hard to say really. I'm fairly sure if it was available online for free, less people would have bought it.

When you're talking only £2000 or so of sales for a small indie release, piracy makes a huge hit to sales. My more popular stuff like trance, the sales drop off a cliff the moment it's leaked. There was a huge problem with people on promo lists leaking pre-released tracks to warez sites, not sure if the main labels (eg ones like Armada, Anjuna etc) ever got to the bottom of it, but it really hurt the sales of people who aren't exactly making bank from their music

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago

It can go both ways since a lot of people discover music through piracy too

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[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

Got a sample preview of your favorite release?

(Presumably you’re not on Spotify since they’re not paying anything.)

[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

People say this all the time about Spotify, but it's actually a viable outlet for revenue if you're on a decent label who understands how to leverage playlists.

Obv that doesn't apply for freeform... but for styles like trance, techno, DnB etc it's not unheard of for a track to get 500k streams across a variety of playlists, which equates to $1500.

Got a sample preview of your favorite release?

I don't think it would be wise to dox myself here after I've made an unpopular comment!

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[-] pelikan@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 months ago

This is actually one of the less effective examples of geoblocking that someone could ever imagine.

Russian warez sites are only "Russian" because they're run by local admins as pirate sites located in the Global South have tendency to have a longer lifespan and less chances to end their days by being raided than hosted in the Western world. Most part of such sites users / uploaders are from worldwide, for example, if you'll check your active peers for any active rutracker upload, you'll see, that only small part of them have Russian flag. So such geoblocking makes literally zero impact, as it never prevents user from any other country from uploading the tunes to such website.

Also all Russian users are already geoblocked, as they won't buy anything from you (even if they would want to) because most of webservices that you could use to promote your album won't be able to charge their cards due to sanctions. And if some of such users use foreign VPN + credit card combo and are able to use such services, they are not affected by your geoblocking, as they're attached to different region.

[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago

I try to buy all my music directly from the artist in CD form whenever possible. Whenever that's not possible, I try to get a version that I can save locally & play offline....

[-] flauschke@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 11 months ago

Bandcamp is also good. You get flac downloads and the artists get money and more so than on other platforms

[-] furycd001@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Never tried bandcamp, but will have to try it out soon....

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[-] VelvetStorm@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

What word did he keep bleeping out?

[-] WarmApplePieShrek@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 11 months ago

enshittification?

[-] Ruthalas@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago

"Enshittification"

[-] justtobbi@feddit.de 3 points 11 months ago

Just highly theoretical, how would one have the best possible experience pirating music via DDL (no torrenting) and organizing it?

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

Usenet and Soulseek

[-] DjMeas@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For me, I subscribe to Deezer (or you can do a trial) and run Deemix which is able to download the music in MP3 or FLAC. It directly downloads the music using Deezer's API.

As far as organizing it goes, I typically just host it with Plex or a Subsonic player like Navidrome.

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[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

bandcamp but pay the artists please it's really fun to do i promise

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