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[-] Jeeve65@ttrpg.network 69 points 1 year ago

7/16" - 10ct = 10mm

[-] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago

Fractional inches can suck my nuts.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

Decimal inches can lick my ass.

Fractional metric can wear a skirt and give me a reach around 😍

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[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Are they really that small?

[-] Theharpyeagle@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, honestly I'm usually so tired of the imperial VS metric debate (I know metric is better and I wish the US used it, it's just a low priority), but drill bit sizes are so stupid.

"Yeah gimme that 15/64ths bit" unhinged behavior.

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[-] Crow@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

The damn imperial system and its weird 1/16 measurements. Why do you people hate 10 step counting?

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 36 points 1 year ago

You actually can't be mad about this one. This is effectively binary which you use all the time without knowing it. And even worse, proper SI notation has jacked up binary hardcore.

1, 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16, 1/32... You won't find a 1/12 or some other number.

[-] Resol@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe that's why I couldn't tell if a gigabyte has 1000 megabytes or 1024. People keep telling me one or the other. Others keep telling me that there's 1024 mebibytes in 1 gibibyte, but those names absolutely suck.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mega is 10^6 , Mebi is 2^20 aka 1024^2 bytes

Edit:

The confusion comes from the fact that Microsoft in Windows calls 1024 bytes a kilobyte, which makes no sense whatsoever, since that word has a meaning and that ain't it.

When MS first launched MS-DOS maybe made sense (maybe), but right now it's only creating confusion. Calling kilobyte a kibibyte is around a 2% error, but with terabyte it's more than 9%, which is a pretty big deal when you buy a 1TB disk and only shows up as 900 and something GB

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 8 points 1 year ago

The confusion comes from the fact that Microsoft in Windows calls 1024 bytes a kilobyte

And storage... and networking... This isn't actually a MS spawned problem, and it existed in media before MS put their hands in it. But it is probably fair to say that MS emboldened storage and networking companies to not change their stance. It doesn't help that it's in their benefit as they're providing actually less product because of the confusion.

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[-] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

10 isn't the best base and I'm sick of pretending it is.

[-] Rinox@feddit.it 10 points 1 year ago

Depends for what. Still better than random scales like 3, 12, 1760 and units that don't mean anything like hundredweight, which isn't even one hundred anything, unless it is because you live in another part of the world where the same word means a totally different thing.

Fancy a pint?

[-] DJKayDawg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I would pick base 12. Which would you prefer?

[-] TeenieBopper@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Base 12 crew represent.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 7 points 1 year ago

base 60 Babylonian gang where you at

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[-] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago
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[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

Because a lot of imperial measurements revolved around being able to be divided by 4, and occasionally 3 at times.

For instance the cooking unit of measurments are in 4's or base 2 in a way (e.g 1 gallon = 4 quarts = 8 pints = 16 cups = 128 ounces)

We still see 4s or 3s irl regardless of measurement system. Doughnuts are often prepared in dozens and virtually never in 10s. Do we walk around claiming why bakers hate 10 step counting?

Time is the example of something designed around 3/4 and didn't change. 60 is divisiable by both 4 (15) and 3 (20) and is not base 10, but people can accept that.

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[-] Zron@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Why do you people feel the need to be able to convert between the thickness of a human hair and the distance between cities?

Ah yes, this bolt is .000001 kilometers wide. That’s a very useful thing you guys did. Definitely need that in every day life.

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Stop, you're making us Americans look even stupider.

[-] TheFrogThatFlies@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Let them be! I deserve a chuckle every now and then :)

[-] tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's why nobody does it that way, but that strawman you got there looks mighty fine...

[-] ForgotAboutDre@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Using 12 and 16 makes for easier maths (pre-calculators). It's easier to divide and get an integer. With easy access to calculators and highly precise measurements (especially digital systems) metric makes more sense and is easier to interpret quickly.

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[-] Marzanna 26 points 1 year ago

Physics is also important. Coins are usually made of softer metal so a wrench can crush it if a bolt is too tight.

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[-] Sharpiemarker@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

No one going to mention that it's a Philips head screw as well? So not only could they have used a metric wrench but also a screwdriver.

[-] Patches@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

You're thinking in ¢.02 now.

[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Hexagon socket screws are often used because they are easier to loosen when the screws are very tight. I think in such a case you can't get any further with a Phillips screwdriver.

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[-] grepe@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Wait... 20h old and nobody picked up un the fact that the thing on the picture is actually screw and you'd need a screwdriver for that?

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

It has a hex shape, you can use both.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

I would say the Philips is for driving in, for speed of assembly, the hex is for when it's seized and needs force to remove.

[-] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Like I'm going two weld two dimes into a cross for the screw slot when I have a wrench already.

[-] Voyajer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A hex cap screw

[-] havokdj@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago
[-] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 1 year ago

Maths is important to get what the frick a 7/16 inch unit is supposed to be and how to calculate just about anything with it.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Maths may be important, but figuring out what's bigger, 7/16 vs 3/8, is a stupid fucking system when metric exists.

Centimeters/millimeters: "6 is bigger than 5 is bigger than 4"

Inches: "I don't fuckin know what's bigger, 5/16 or 3/8? How about 7/32? Fuck you, I'm just making it all up."

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Even more ridiculous is that they could have just made everything one fraction. Like 1/10 then 2/10 then 3/10. This crap is over complicated by it's own rules.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What if you need to represent something between 1/10th and 2/10ths without misrepresenting your precision?

Fractional measurements are way better for indicating precision than decimal. With decimal precision can only be increased or decreased by a power of 10, whereas fractional can be any level of precision - just represent the precision in the denominator.

[-] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Congrats were still useing fractions for a wrench. That still goes 10x.

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[-] norgur@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

What's that in hogs hair lengths?

[-] thecrotch@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

3/8 is 6/16. 7/16 is bigger. That's like 3rd grade math.

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[-] curiousPJ@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Any aerospace mechanics have any comments on this matter?

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

I'm not an aerospace mechanic, but I do have some insight.

The formula in the image is incorrect. It depicts 7/16" - 10 cents = 10 mm, not plus. Notice that 7/16" indicates the gap in the wrench, and the dime makes that gap smaller.

Now that that is out of the way, it seems that a dime is 1.35 mm (I love that American currency is specified in metric). So, 7/16" - 10 cents = 9.7625 mm. So, pretty damn close to 10 mm.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

Laughs in pliers wrench

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