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[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 91 points 2 years ago

Meanwhile Israel unequivocally killed a journalist with a tank shell. https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-LEBANON/JOURNALIST/akveabxrzvr/

Israel is not investigating nor punishing, so it’s an actual war crime then. Will Biden put ANY restrictions on weapons to Israel?

[-] Emma_Gold_Man@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 years ago

No. He's been real clear about that. Neither will Trump.

Short of armed insurrection, US subjects have no control on this one. The ones that are arming for insurrection also support the genocide. FML

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Tank shells. Against an adversary that doesn’t have tanks.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago

They classified encryption as a munition so now they can just classify journalists as a tank. Problem solved.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Tanks are mobile artillery. They're not only designed for fighting other tanks.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What you’re talking about is a self-propelled gun. An SPG is not an MBT. That’s like saying a Baja trophy truck is the same as a McLaren Le Mans endurance prototype are the same because they both have 4 wheels and are fast.

You can use a tank as indirect fire support, but that is absolutely not what they are designed to do, and they aren’t nearly as good at it as dedicated platforms.

And moreover, Israel is fighting in urban environments. Urban environments eat tanks alive. This is stupid on multiple logistical, geopolitical, and ethical levels.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Tanks are direct fire support. Israel has been effectively using tanks in Gaza for years.

This is a super weird fight to pick.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 89 points 2 years ago

And we can't do this for Ukraine because?

[-] Arelin@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 years ago

Because Israel is more profitable of course. Whatever "justifications" the US uses for war are always just excuses to earn the ruling capitalist class more profit.

Capitalism just follows the money. Though if there's enough protests and riots at home, the cost of managing that would outweigh the profit of genocoding native Palestinians.

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[-] SCB@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

No, this specifically goes around the House and Senate.

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[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 64 points 2 years ago

There's been a lot of posts about Palestinians and Muslims seriously arguing sitting out the next presidential election. To all the ppl who constantly argue how stupid and reactionary doing so is, what exactly are they suppose to do?

Simply vote for the man who is actively supplying the weapons to kill your family/kill ppl just like you because Trump is a giant bigot? Thankfully i don't have to make such a decision but I wouldn't blame anyone (especially the family of a dead relative bombed by Israel) to sit this next election out.

For Muslims and Palestinians this next election is a Murderer vs a Murdering racist

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

They're supposed to realize Trump will have a Muslim ban and take away their rights and then go full on genocide using US troops to help Isreal do it more efficiently and then probably throw all Muslims into camps to be reconditioned or worked to death. I don't know what they expect biden to do, I don't claim to understand geopolitics but I'm pretty sure it would be a disaster for the US to end relations with Isreal.

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

Simply vote for the man who is actively supplying the weapons to kill your family/kill ppl just like you because Trump is a giant bigot and would do the exact same if not worse?

FTFY.

But to answer your question, yes. In America 99.99% of the time we have to vote for the fractionally lesser of two evils and Biden is that. Not voting IS voting for Trump. It is a stupid selfish thing that does nothing for no one. Giving in to apathy by not voting is giving up on democracy and right now we are either voting to continue democracy or giving in to fascism.

Just to be clear I don't endorse what the US is letting Israel do to Gaza and Palestinians and I've let my local representatives know this. I also wish there was someone other than Trump or Biden who had any chance at all of winning the next presidential election.

[-] Cosmonauticus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

It is a stupid selfish thing that does nothing for no one. Giving in to apathy by not voting is giving up on democracy and right now we are either voting to continue democracy or giving in to fascism.

This comment is stupid selfish. Choosing not to vote for an administration that supplied the weapons that killed your family is the exact opposite of apathy.

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[-] BarrierWithAshes@kbin.social 19 points 2 years ago

Third party, unironically.

inb4 helping the other side/first-past/throwing votes/electoral college. Gotta show em this is what happens when they are ignored.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

I totally agree. It will hurt, but this lesser-evil bullshit needs to end.

Blame everyone who votes for 'moderate' democrats. Not the people who refuse to 'fall in line.'

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

The lies people who vote third party tell themselves to justify their actions are astounding. You know the game, you know the rules and you know the consequences but still you do the wrong thing and pat yourself on the back and think yourself some sort of hero.

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[-] firecat@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

This is Biden fault not American voters. He chooses to ignore voters and choose to ignore problems. Voters shouldn’t be blamed for the correct policies people want.

[-] CyanFen@lemmy.one 12 points 2 years ago

As is always the case when it comes to elections, choosing to not vote for the lesser evil is just voting for the greater evil

[-] Poggervania@kbin.social 13 points 2 years ago

Which is unfortunate because it then becomes a matter of “I am voting against the candidate I don’t like” rather than “I am voting for the candidate I like”, and the voice of the people get lost.

[-] TallonMetroid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Welcome to FPTP voting. System is working as designed.

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[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

To all the ppl who constantly argue how stupid and reactionary doing so is, what exactly are they suppose to do?

"Fall in line."

They want history to continue to repeat itself because they're constantly on the winning side.

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[-] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 9 points 2 years ago

Sadly that will be making a statement and handing the country back to a wannabe dictator and worse conditions for them in particular.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Maybe democrats should nominate someone who isn't just the 'lesser-evil' if they're so afraid of losing voters.

But nah. Just "fall in line" and blame everyone else who doesn't, lol.

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[-] Neato@kbin.social 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Do you want someone enabling genocide or someone who will enact a genocide? Both suck but equating them is beyond idiocy.

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[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago
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[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

What's the emergency, is Russia invading Israel next?

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

Israel is currently at war.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 61 points 2 years ago

“War” isn’t really a fitting word for committing genocide against unarmed civilians for being the wrong ethno-religious group on land you intend to steal.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Regardless of your feelings, they literally declared war, so yes it is the correct word.

[-] bamboo@lemm.ee 32 points 2 years ago

I mean I’ve declared war on a plate of lasagna before but nobody should sell me tank shells because of it.

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[-] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just a reminder if you take Zyrtec in the USA that the liquid gel caps ones are made in Israel but the childrens liquid is made in Switzerland. Avoid Israeli products when you can

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

Boycotting Israeli products is one of the only things you can do, since the US government seems complicit.

https://bdsmovement.net/get-involved/what-to-boycott

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Genocidan biden

I think I'll vote for Trump next election. Tired of this 'lesser-evil' bullshit.

Blame the liberals who keep voting for "moderates."

And here we have a true fucking moron.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

🥱

Got a problem with me? Nominate better candidates! It's a win-win for all.

The problem is definitely with you, mate, if you think voting trump is somehow a better alternative. Fucking braindead.

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[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm so tired of people saying not voting for biden is completely equivalent to voting for trump, but this is stupid.

[-] chitak166@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Well, what we've been doing thus far hasn't been working.

Only a fool would keep trying the same thing but expecting different results.

I think the real stupid ones are the people voting for the 'lesser-evil.' Maybe if they lost a few elections they'd change their tune.

Funny how it's always progressive's fault, though. If a moderate loses? Progressive's fault for not 'falling in line.' If a progressive loses, though, nobody will blame the moderate for not 'falling in line.' If a Progressive wins, nobody is going to acknowledge it's because they were progressive.

It's a lose-lose all around, and that's by design. I'd rather stop pretending that the lesser-evil leads to improvements because it does not. They're both just looking out for different rich people, and in many cases the same.

If you don't like it, then encourage people to vote for better candidates! If dems are truly afraid of losing elections, run better candidates and don't just favor the 'establishment.'

If they can't do that, then they deserve to lose. I don't care if you blame me.

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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 8 points 2 years ago

It's because of the view of Not voting for Hillary over what the DNC did help give us trump. People are too afraid of GOP to vote third party or even more progressive dems.

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[-] lysol@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Oh, Trump, yeah the guy that think Russia is the 'lesser-evil'.

[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

So vote for the greater evil? I mean Trump's stated position on Gaza is to "let it play out" so he's for the genocide as well. He also promised to reject any refugees from Gaza.

He's also a nihilist, on top of being as much of a lying sack-of-shit as any other politician you can name.

So if you're voting for Trump, it's certainly not because you care about Gaza.

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