Really wish the organizers at tracks like Hockenheim or Sepang had the budget to host a race. So many tracks here that are simply all right, buying their way in, while truly stellar ones just wither away on the sidelines.
Very curious to see if the Chinese GP even happens next year.
I’d love to see hockenheim back. It’s a great track for racing and a ton of fun to watch.
Apparently it just makes no financial sense with the amount of spectators that go. Mercedes lost money on the GP in 2019 if I remember right, on top of being an absolute clownshow for them. If there was interest in Germany with a German driver maybe we’ll see it back, but right now it doesn’t make a ton of sense.
True, Hockenheim is my favourite track.
My hopes are on 2026 and beyond, when Audi and Mercedes might push for a German race.
Really wish the organizers at tracks like Hockenheim or Sepang had the budget to host a race.
If only there was an Mercedes-AMG Petronas F1 Team with connections to both countries that would push for that...
It would be quite the bill to foot for an organisation that’s already pretty expensive to run. I don’t imagine they would do that unless there’s some serious financial incentive at the end of it, even if there is a connection there. They are a business after all.
It would be quite the bill to foot for an organisation that’s already pretty expensive to run.
You mean two organizations: Mercedes-Benz AG and Petronas. The Red Bull F1 team isn't the owner and sponsor of Red Bull Ring either.
They are a business after all.
So is Red Bull and the incentive is to promote the brand.
I mean, I’m pretty sure this must have been considered by them already, so if they still haven’t done it, it’s probably because the numbers just don’t check out.
Its clear that organisations like RB, Merc and Ferrari are highly adept at (and love) making money. If they’re not partaking in a potential opportunity, there must truly be a compelling economic reason behind that with the sort of information that you and I are simply not privy to.
Mercedes the company put a boatload of money into the German GP and lost a fair amount of it.
"Lost"? Advertising itself does not make any profit at all. It's about promoting the brand and making money from selling the product. Ask Red Bull for details. They spend loads of money (including hosting their own GP) to promote canned soda.
I'm not talking about advertising money, I'm talking about them contributing to the fees paid to the FIA to host the actual Grand Prix. The organizers lost money on that race most years. It ran, and 2019 was no exception.
The organizers lost money on that race most years.
Because the German car brand is not interested in paying the fees of a German GP to promote "quality made in Germany".
F1: "Formula 1 has made clear its intention to move towards greater calendar regionalisation, reducing logistical burdens and making the season more sustainable."
Also F1:
Well both could be true. Most of the equipment doesn't move from one race to the next. There are like three or more of most stuff and it is transported to the race like 4-5 races out. For the most part, only the cars and people travel by air, and that's when the car can't be transported by land like when in Europe.
For example, in the 2023 calendar, I bet most of the equipment used in Miami will then be trucked or trained to Montreal. Then maybe it goes and waits at Austin, then on to Las Vegas. Just a guess though.
Miami and Canada separated the way they are just doesn’t make any sense.
Glad Spa is still there.
Glad Spa is still there.
Fuck that death trap and get some actually good tracks back on the calendar.
It’s an excellent track with a legitimately fatal flaw. They need to fix it. That doesn’t make it a bad track.
That doesn’t make it a bad track.
As long as it is the F1 track that kills junior drivers every few years, it's actually a bad track and needs to get stricken off the calendar until they fix their death trap.
I'd concur with Verstappen here and say that Jeddah is a more dangerous track; it's just that there's been fewer races on it to illustrate that point.
Yes…. and the Titan was an excellent submersible with a fatal flaw. That didn’t make it a bad submersible. 😂
Edit: I know this isn’t a great analogy, i just think it’s funny. Honestly not sure how they’d fix Spa tho cause the fatal flaw is the best part of the track. Maybe a chicane at Raidillon?
USA Austin
Miami Miami
Las Vegas Las Vegas
I think it’s GP Name and then City. It’s just most races have the nation as the GP name.
They did Emilia Romagna for Imola. And 2x Monaco.
But weird nonetheless. I’d prefer the normal City, Country for all of them.
There can't be more than one GP with the same name, which is why we've had names like the Luxembourg, San Marino, European, Pacific GPs, etc.
First 2 races will be held on saturday instead of sunday due to Ramadan.
If the ME races are going to make sure they’re the first races of the season they shouldn’t get to dictate the schedule around their other events.
If they need to be off on Sunday for a religious holiday F1 should be racing somewhere else that week and only go back after the holiday is over.
But money
~~Blood~~ Oil money is going to probably come back to bite F1 in the ass in a decade or two I’m betting. And when that happens maybe we’ll get normal calendars back.
Well, again, there's quite a lot of large-ocean-hopping going on there... I understand there's so many factors involved in sorting the schedule, but does seem their efforts to go Carbon Neutral may get thwarted by immense travel.
Who the hell puts Canada in the middle of the European races?
iirc it’s there because they can’t race later in the year with the other American races due to weather. If they wait until that late in the year the weather in Canada won’t be super conducive to running a good race.
I guess having Japan grouped with China and Australia makes some amount of sense but man is it going to feel weird having Suzuka at round 4.
I don't really follow F1, but I find it odd that they're having a race in Vegas during Thanksgiving. I'd imagine they'd have better turnout during a non holiday. Wouldn't it be better to hold the race in a country that doesn't celebrate a holiday that week?
Reading between the lines of what Domenicalli said, it's the only week that the city would agree to, BECAUSE there are a fewer people
Still some really large and weird jumps in here but I guess it is an improvement.
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