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[-] SkyeCat@kbin.social 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

For anyone wondering if this was someone's real opinion as a comic, it's satire.
This is by Ward Sutton for the Onion, under the pseudonym Stan Kelly. He does a lot of these satire-of-conservatives cartoons.

[-] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

Thanks! I enjoyed looking for lady liberty each time

[-] YerbaYerba@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago
  • latest fad.
[-] fsxylo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago

That explains why it was actually funny.

[-] Forte@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

I know it’s satire, but seeing Korone in particular being the “evil titty monster” is hilarious. She’s perhaps one of the most wholesome and positive VTubers, lol.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago
[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

it stands for virtual tuber.

you basically buy a potato online,
but instead of shipping it to your location,
you get sent a link to a picture of it.

[-] Klear@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago
[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 11 months ago
[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

No tuber is fungible. Each potato is special in its own way

[-] Unsustainable@lemmy.today 6 points 11 months ago

So, it's like sponsoring a kid from a third world country?

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

nah, your not sponsoring it,
you invest in it.

its your potato after all,
you just cant actually eat it

[-] Unsustainable@lemmy.today 6 points 11 months ago

Can someone else eat my k̶i̶d̶ potato?

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

of course not, what would be the point of investing in it otherwise?

its YOUR potato after all

[-] Unsustainable@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

Can I donate my potato to a starving 3rd world kid?

[-] Kerb@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

you could send them your image,
but they also can't eat it.

[-] Unsustainable@lemmy.today 4 points 11 months ago

I'll still feel good for sending food to a starving kid, and that's all that counts.

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

A VTuber, or virtual YouTuber, is an online entertainer who uses a virtual avatar generated using computer graphics. Real-time motion capture software or technology are often—but not always—used to capture movement.

Wow.

[-] DaCookeyMonsta@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

I figured out I was out of touch when snapchat filters became younger folks' identities.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I mean, it's a step up from my generation where everyone was xx_Drizzt_xx

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 9 points 11 months ago

Is it? I'll admit I've bounced off the one Drizzt book I tried reading...twice. But there are some damn good novels in the Forgotten Realms line.

And even if they are reading low-grade schlock, is that not at least equal to (and frankly probably better than) watching lazy overly-sexualised live streams?

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago

What live streams are you watching?

Yeah, there's low-grade schlock of anything if you look for (or single out) it

Plus we were mainly talking about identities, not the streams themselves. Though I do want to point out that the cartoon itself is using the eekum bookum girl ...so...if that's sexualized then...okay?

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 11 months ago

I've never seen any vtubers. I was basing my impression of it on other comments from this thread, particularly the top comment by @qooqie.

[-] LwL@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Honestly their impression seems super biased based on their perception of one streamer they liked. Vtubers - just like other streamers/content creators - range from "primarily doing porn" to "guy that has been streaming for 10 years decides to get a cute anime girl vtuber avatar for fun".

There's a tendency for roleplaying a character, but it's not a necessity and definitely not always sexualized and plenty of vtubers are just regular streamers with an anime avatar.

There's of course some weird simp culture in many audiences, but that's no different from other female streamers either. From what streamers have said it's hard to prevent unless you stop anything close to it from happening, and few people want to do that when it also just factually brings in a significant amount of revenue.

Most also don't mind or even like people drawing porn of their avatars, but that's more due to humans being horny by default rather than particularly exploiting that for money.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

Doesn't seem like a step up to me

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 21 points 11 months ago

The easiest way to understand is a streamer (think Markiplier or Pewdiepie) but instead of seeing their face, they use an animated avatar that follows their movements.

Extra layer of anonymity and makes people less focused on their day-to-day looks.

[-] foofy@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

The latest fad.

[-] odium@programming.dev 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

A streamer who uses a virtual avatar instead of their face.

Some roleplay as their character and some just want to stream without showing their face.

[-] bort@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

V-tubers are weird to me because most of the time it’s huge titty anime avatars. It just promotes the aspect of streaming that women need to be sexually attractive to achieve success in streaming. Kinda sad. I’ve seen some real funny women streamers start only v-tubing as huge titty booby physics to increase their audience and it unfortunately worked

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Weird since the most popular vtubers...don't have huge titties.

It is somewhat sad, but basically when you have an avatar you don't have to worry about people wandering into your chat talking about messy bed hair...or lackof makeup...or that you look sick...

Your avatar doesn't change, and leaves very little to comment on after the initial impression. So the people who stay are focused on what you're actually doing. It makes their lives easier as well.

I mean there's male vtubers too, and it has the same strengths. You keep a level of anonymity, and after initial impressions you don't have to worry about people commenting about your appearance as much.

I mean I have to ask, if you thought they were real funny, didn't you keep watching them when they started Vtubing to realize it's not what you're making it out to be? Or did them hiding their appearance somehow detract from the experience for you?

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Good question and no I didn’t keep watching them because it went from a reasonable camera or no camera to the camera taking up a huge chunk of the screen. It is also distracting having titties waving around regardless and I feel uncomfortable watching sexualized avatars when it used to be cool to just see someone who was in pajamas chilling. I get the appeal I just don’t like it and what it promotes most of the time. People say it reduces sexuality but a lot of people sexualize moe style (the amount of moe porn communities I’ve blocked on /all is insane) and big booby avatars as can be seen with how many communities focus on vtuber avatar porn. So I don’t think that’s entirely true

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Vtubers don't use up anymore of the screen than streamers do unless they're doing a chatting screen....which is typically when streamers also use a huge chink of the screen....did you watch them for longer than their initial introduction stream?

It really sounds like you focused way too much on their comfy pajama appearance....

Also fanart of animated characters is fanart. You could just...not lookup fanart like you probably did with the streamer (which I assume no art existed since usually streamers don't have art drawn of them right?...so...just don't look it up like you were already doing??)

Like that extra bit just seems to be a you thing...I don't see how you would have walked into it if you just did the same thing you were doing back when they were a streamer.

I don't know what happened to make you feel so strongly about this but it's just not representative of vtubers generally...I mean even the vtuber in the cartoon in question generally wears modest clothing with very little physics involved...and thats if she's even in her usual attire. Sometimes she's a cake or a tree.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Gonna tack on here from a different angle. I also don't care for vtubers but I don't see them as inherently bad or anything. I just don't identify with it like I do with a person hanging out and playing games. Is that more work for the streamer, absolutely but it's also what I want to engage with so...

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I mean as long as we all understand each other you have your preferences 👍

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So with the streamers transition to a vtuber they increased camera size. All streamers have different camera size, I prefer it usually small and out of the way or gone tbh. Some people want the streamer to be large and with the streamers I watched that went to vtuber they increased the camera size and found more success. It is unfortunate. Most vtubers are definitely sexualized but not all obviously

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I feel like you must have been traumatized by this one vtuber that we're still arguing most vtubers based on a single one despite examples showing this isn't actually true across the industry...

Like it's really not the norm....

Like this would be like arguing every female cam streamer is flashing their tits for views every 5 seconds. Which would be insulting to your streamer prior to their vtubing of course.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

i was so sad when vinny vinesauce became a sexualized vtuber, i opened twitch and BAM, meat wiggling around on screen..

[-] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

haha this is hard to tell if it's a parody or real Ben Garrison cartoon

But whoever the old boomer guy is, I agree with him.

[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 5 points 11 months ago
[-] Darkard@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Is this a Ben Garrison comic?

[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

Nah, @SidewaysHighways said it's satire of guys like him. Dude is from the Onion:

https://www.theonion.com/opinion/cartoons

[-] The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website 5 points 11 months ago

I have no idea if it's real or convincingly edited.

[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This must be one of the best satires of that moron's work because it's has some subtly in the joke.

Plus Ben would NEVER say a good thing about anime. He probably still calls it Japanimation. And leans into that first syllable when he says it.

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