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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

V-tubers are weird to me because most of the time it’s huge titty anime avatars. It just promotes the aspect of streaming that women need to be sexually attractive to achieve success in streaming. Kinda sad. I’ve seen some real funny women streamers start only v-tubing as huge titty booby physics to increase their audience and it unfortunately worked

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Weird since the most popular vtubers...don't have huge titties.

It is somewhat sad, but basically when you have an avatar you don't have to worry about people wandering into your chat talking about messy bed hair...or lackof makeup...or that you look sick...

Your avatar doesn't change, and leaves very little to comment on after the initial impression. So the people who stay are focused on what you're actually doing. It makes their lives easier as well.

I mean there's male vtubers too, and it has the same strengths. You keep a level of anonymity, and after initial impressions you don't have to worry about people commenting about your appearance as much.

I mean I have to ask, if you thought they were real funny, didn't you keep watching them when they started Vtubing to realize it's not what you're making it out to be? Or did them hiding their appearance somehow detract from the experience for you?

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Good question and no I didn’t keep watching them because it went from a reasonable camera or no camera to the camera taking up a huge chunk of the screen. It is also distracting having titties waving around regardless and I feel uncomfortable watching sexualized avatars when it used to be cool to just see someone who was in pajamas chilling. I get the appeal I just don’t like it and what it promotes most of the time. People say it reduces sexuality but a lot of people sexualize moe style (the amount of moe porn communities I’ve blocked on /all is insane) and big booby avatars as can be seen with how many communities focus on vtuber avatar porn. So I don’t think that’s entirely true

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Vtubers don't use up anymore of the screen than streamers do unless they're doing a chatting screen....which is typically when streamers also use a huge chink of the screen....did you watch them for longer than their initial introduction stream?

It really sounds like you focused way too much on their comfy pajama appearance....

Also fanart of animated characters is fanart. You could just...not lookup fanart like you probably did with the streamer (which I assume no art existed since usually streamers don't have art drawn of them right?...so...just don't look it up like you were already doing??)

Like that extra bit just seems to be a you thing...I don't see how you would have walked into it if you just did the same thing you were doing back when they were a streamer.

I don't know what happened to make you feel so strongly about this but it's just not representative of vtubers generally...I mean even the vtuber in the cartoon in question generally wears modest clothing with very little physics involved...and thats if she's even in her usual attire. Sometimes she's a cake or a tree.

[-] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Gonna tack on here from a different angle. I also don't care for vtubers but I don't see them as inherently bad or anything. I just don't identify with it like I do with a person hanging out and playing games. Is that more work for the streamer, absolutely but it's also what I want to engage with so...

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I mean as long as we all understand each other you have your preferences 👍

[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

So with the streamers transition to a vtuber they increased camera size. All streamers have different camera size, I prefer it usually small and out of the way or gone tbh. Some people want the streamer to be large and with the streamers I watched that went to vtuber they increased the camera size and found more success. It is unfortunate. Most vtubers are definitely sexualized but not all obviously

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I feel like you must have been traumatized by this one vtuber that we're still arguing most vtubers based on a single one despite examples showing this isn't actually true across the industry...

Like it's really not the norm....

Like this would be like arguing every female cam streamer is flashing their tits for views every 5 seconds. Which would be insulting to your streamer prior to their vtubing of course.

[-] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

i was so sad when vinny vinesauce became a sexualized vtuber, i opened twitch and BAM, meat wiggling around on screen..

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