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[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In my opinion, this is some fallacious bullshit. Consumerist culture did not spring up out of nowhere. It's a direct result of the variable the current capitalist system optimizes for - maximizing profit. It's a success story by these measurements. How is the author expecting for this change to happen when the system literally optimizes against it? Even if a cultural shift appears despite that, how long would it endure under the campaign against it that will inevitably occur due to the incentives in the system? Within the current capitalist system we don't even have the democratic power to effect any significant change to the system. Capital controls decisions in the corporation. Capital also controls a significant chunk of the democratic power in the political system. The only (somewhat) peaceful strategy that I'm aware of which has been shown to produce a significant enough counterbalance to capital that can affect political, economic and therefore environmental change is labor organization. Unions can provide the equivalent lobbying power to corporate lobbying, but on behalf of the majority. Of course it's also been shown that capital can destroy unions if labor organization isn't ubiquitous and robust enough. However that happens on the scale of decades which demonstrates the relative durability of the strategy.

TL;DR:

If you want to change the system in any meaningful way, away from consumerism, from profit maximization, from climate destruction, unionize and/or support the ones who can and do. A cultural change on individual basis that meaningfully affects the system is exceedingly unlikely if not impossible in the long run.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Agree mostly but I don't think unions are the solution to over-consumption. They're good for income inequality worker safety and a bunch of other things, but they're just as incentivized to increase consumption as corporations. Consumption is good for workers since it guarantees job security and possible increases to wages. To counteract these interests you need something representing the interests of everyone that will be negatively effected by over-consumption and the climate change it causes, such as a truly representative democratic state.

Syndicalism is great for organizing a community and handling it's problems but it can't handle large scale problems that require self sacrifice like war and climate change, for that you need larger organizations.

[-] treeko@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Dumb title - not going to read article. Consumerism didn’t spontaneously generate. It’s an intended outcome. And the implication that “consumers” as a whole are responsible for inequality and climate catastrophe is disgusting.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 8 points 11 months ago

As long as people continue to worship money and stuff, and increased consumer spending is reported and regarded as “good news,” we won’t be able to shift from our wasteful ways.

Should we be worshiping The Fatted Calf or maybe just The Sun? Consumers have no choice but to wish for more and more money because without it you die. You can't pay rent with anything but money, you can't buy food with anything but money, you can't trade anything but money for healthcare.

For anything to change there needs to be a global change in how "wealth" and resources are distributed.

But you know, lets just blame the guys at the bottom and not the insane billionaires club who's choices trickle down to cause suffering and death for millions of people.

[-] cobwoms 6 points 11 months ago

situation normal: all fucked up

[-] swordgeek@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

That is not technicaly a private jet. It's owned by "Executive Jet Group." It has also been deregistered.

[-] Alteon@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

As far as I'm aware, a lot of "private" jets are not "owned" by a person. They are owned by a shell corporation that exclusively sells tickets to a few people (typically family members of the "not owner").

It dodges quite a few requirements and laws required by "private owners, and apparently also obfuscates jet tracking (for example, like Elon's jet).

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I don't know why they get they had to highlight the fact that the richest people in the western world were white men, but otherwise, yeah that's pretty much it.

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