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[-] hark@lemmy.world 103 points 2 years ago

Look at all that self defense israel is doing.

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 19 points 2 years ago

Best defense is a good offense?

/s

[-] MTLion3@lemm.ee 72 points 2 years ago

Raise your hands if you’re shocked. Literally nobody should raise their hands

[-] sousmerde_retardatr@lemm.ee 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If the most recent death toll wasn't enough, here's something else showing that they don't really care about keeping an appearance, as well as another U.N. school, i don't know what to say or do, everyone knows that they won't destroy "Hamas" :

If their goal was only to send a message, then there's no point to be that extreme, the only reason left that i can see is that they want to keep the Gaza Strip, it's always a bet but they considered that they'll be allowed to(, in which case their security would indeed be increased by getting rid of all palestinians).
Their neighbours would have to be quite desperate to think that embracing Israel and the west is still their best option, but if they do it'd probably be for economic reasons, and/or perhaps fears of retaliations, i.d.k., we'll see how it'll evolve in the future, but i can't believe that they would kill all of these people and destroy everything without a real goal, sending a pointless message isn't one, nor is the unrealistic aim of destroying "Hamas", i find it hard to imagine them simply going back to their side as if they accomplished something by pointlessly mass murdering thousands of childrens&humans on the other side of the wall, awful that this senseless option of a useless massacre is the most desirable.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 10 points 2 years ago

Their neighbours would have to be quite desperate to think that embracing Israel and the west is still their best option, but if they do it’d probably be for economic reasons, and/or perhaps fears of retaliation

Not quite. Israel managed to get the Arab states on their side, and the US is helping using aid (this is why Egypt is helping Israel in its blockade of Gaza, for instance). Arab leaders aren't victims of an oppressive international order; they're willing traitors.

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[-] Therealgoodjanet@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago

I’ll repeat a comment I made a while ago:

“Please move over there to that big X on the ground, and we will definitely not bomb it.

-Sincerely the IOF”

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 55 points 2 years ago

And yet they’re going to be so pissed off when Schindler’s List is remade one day with someone who’s shielding Palestinians.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, Jews aren't doing anything like extermination programs, 20% of Israeli citizens are Arab Muslims. This is war, not genocide.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 57 points 2 years ago

This is literally an extermination program being done with missiles instead of gas chambers, there's no other reason to lie about safe areas to civilians and use it to collect them in the same place to kill as many as possible. This is literally how the germans used the death showers in concentration camps.

[-] DarkGamer@kbin.social 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area. If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven't. They built sophisticated AI to select their targets so that they can claim their targets are valid military ones.

I mean there's a real legitimate case to be made that they need to select their military targets more carefully or that the amount of civilian collateral damages too high, and I feel like that all gets overlooked when instead It gets replaced with the ridiculous claim that israel is trying to genocide all the civilians, which is obviously wrong.(Israel is comprised of many of the same ethnic groups you claim they are genociding.)

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Look if they were actually trying to avoid civilian casualties the amount of kids killed would not be nearly so high. There wouldn't be bombed ambulances.

This isnt war this is slaughter of civilians. Just because they're using different technology to do it doesn't mean its a sparkling war instead of a genocide.

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[-] orrk@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

70% of casualties are women and children, this doesn't mean that 30% are Hamas, after all most men also aren't part of Hamas, just that they are actively targeting civilians

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[-] spirinolas@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Israel has been very clear that they will attack Hamas targets no matter where they are, inside or outside the evacuation area

So...unless Israel is lying then Hamas is everywhere. If Hamas is in every place the IDF dropped bombs they are, by far, the biggest army in the world. No wonder Israel is so trigger happy.

Unless...

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[-] ReiRose@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

"If they wanted to just kill all the Palestinians they could have by now but they haven't."

If this Israeli government wanted to kill all the Palestinians without looking like that was their plan they would bomb them slowly over an extended period of time while making a human shield argument.

[-] riodoro1@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Shit, it must be true since DarkGamer says so on lemmy.

We can safely ignore the whole Palestine topic guys

[-] Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 29 points 2 years ago

Either you're drinking the cool-aid or forgot the "/s". Can't really tell.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 14 points 2 years ago

They're not. This guy is a bona-fide Zionist.

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

You know why only 20% are Palestinians? Because everyone else was expelled in 1949.

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[-] iegod@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago
[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

That 20% gets treated like dirt and members of the governing coalition are calling for deporting them into Gaza for "disloyalty"

It's a genocide.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago

It's ok because they didn't condemn HAMAS

[-] orrk@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

the IDF has probable intel that there may or may not be a member of Hamas in that crowd, thus they are human shields and the IDF is clean of all wrong doing

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 2 years ago

Can you stand in a line please, we're running short on bullets.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

"We do a little bit of trolling" - IDF probably

[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Israel clearly meant that 'south' means Egypt.

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[-] roastedDeflator@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago
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