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[-] Odo@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago

...sources were adamant that there were no political ties.

You just know someone's proud of themselves for that line.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 4 points 9 months ago

😂 how did I miss that? Great line.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 7 points 9 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


They insisted the tie worn by the King when he met Mr Sunak did not have any connection with Greece or the diplomatic row about the sculptures.

It sparked an angry backlash in Greece and claims by the Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer that Mr Sunak had tried to "humiliate" an important European ally.

Former Chancellor George Osborne, who chairs the British Museum where the Marbles are currently housed, described Mr Sunak's actions as a "hissy fit".

Mr Sunak has, however, ruled out a loan arrangement, saying: "Our position is very clear - as a matter of law the Marbles can't be returned and we've been unequivocal about that."

In 2017, with fierce debates running about Brexit, there were claims that the late Queen Elizabeth had opened Parliament wearing a hat that resembled the European Union flag.

After the Russian invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the late Queen was pictured meeting Canadian premier Justin Trudeau, standing in front of a vase full of blue and yellow-coloured flowers, the Ukrainian national colours.


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[-] smeg@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

"as a matter of law the Marbles can't be returned" says the man in charge of making laws

[-] catch22@startrek.website 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This, the fuck you to the DUP when meeting them and sein Fein.

https://youtu.be/BsVyiV3ae8o

E: Just looked at the other comments, just for clarity, I think it might be more a fuck you to Sunak than Greece... Finding it hard to not to have a bit of a liking for the imperial overload..

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 8 points 9 months ago

People have a problem with the royal family and I do get it but both the Queen and now the King both seem to at least understand their privilege. They actually use their power, in as much as they can, for good.

Which puts them head and shoulders above the current government. Who does the opposite.

[-] catch22@startrek.website 9 points 9 months ago

The current government is money/power hungry grifters. The royals have the unearned privilege by birth to just sneer at whoever they want. Broken clocks and all that.

The royal prerogative that allows the firm to quietly block any legislation that goes through is pretty grim

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/feb/08/royals-vetted-more-than-1000-laws-via-queens-consent

But yeah, Charlie has done some pretty funny things recently

[-] tegs_terry@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago

If they gave 90% of their unnecessary wealth away to children starving and freezing in their domain right now, then I might start to like them. Anything short of that is insufficient.

[-] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Phil the Greek's son is a cheeky Charlie!

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I am quite happy for him to go to Greece if he wants to stay with the Marbles so much.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

They're not in Greece though are they?

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

ofc they are not. It is ridiculous to want to hold onto them. The amount of people who want to keep them in the UK is very small.

EDIT: to correct a typo.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No they're not in Greece that's the point.

Greece want them in Greece not in the UK.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Typo - OFC they are not. But they will get them under Starmer, he has said as much.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I'm totally confused by everything you say because none of it seems to have any connection with the previous comment.

The statues are not in Greece They're in the UK, that's the problem.

What are you saying? Because I literally can't work it out.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They are heading to Greece. They will be there within the next 10 years. If Starmer doesn't just hand them over, then the Greeks will use their veto to stop the UK joining the EU. Since Starmer wants good relations with the EU without actually committing to join, then the Elgin Marbles will be a good start point, as well as doing the right thing.

[-] robyoung@beehaw.org 5 points 9 months ago

Anti-royal pro-colonial is a angle we don't often see.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

Giving things back is not pro-colonial. Did we even have any claim on Greece as a colony?

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

There was more than one empire when the British empire was at its height. Greece was under the control of the Ottoman empire. The purchase of the marbles was an agreement with them rather than the Greeks themselves.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

What has that got to do with the price of fish?

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 2 points 9 months ago

I was answering your question about whether Britain had claimed Greece as a colony. Colonialism isn't just about the British empire.

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

And again - price of fish. The topic at hand has nothing to do with colonialism.

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Did we even have any claim on Greece as a colony?

Syldon@feddit.uk

[-] Syldon@feddit.uk 1 points 9 months ago

Anti-royal pro-colonial is a angle we don’t often see

Look at the comment above and stick to the context

Britain had claimed Greece as a colony

andthenthreemore see anyone can do that

[-] andthenthreemore@startrek.website 1 points 9 months ago

Except I took your whole question to give you context to my answer, rather than taking an extra from a sentence which flipped the meaning.

You can't complain about my comment having nothing to do with the price of fish when I was just giving you an answer to your question.

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