It been fucking hillarious seeing people doubletalk California demographics.
"Everybody keeps leaving California because the cost of rent and housing keeps going up!" which feels true but like...
It has big "Nobody goes there anymore, it's too crowded" energy.
There have always been more people entering than leaving lol.
If the headline was the only thing you read, yes. The article actually says it still has a net loss every year.
It even says it still has a net 60k/year net loss to Texas alone.
The article's missing headline was driven from the single point that of the people moving to Califorinia, the largest percentage was from Texas.
Which makes sense given the size of Texas. I would think the percentage would reflect the relative proportion of people in the states.
So, 60 thousand people is like 0.15% of California's population. That's like a 400 lb. man going on a diet and losing 9.6 ounces. Is it really even worth mentioning?
Are you making a statement about the article, or my comment?
I don’t remember, tbh. I do agree with your comment that the headline is misleading in that it implies wrongly that net migration from Texas to California is positive.
I do think people make way too much of the net migration from California to Texas, which I think can fairly be described as negligible. I don’t recall what made me think that a reply to your comment was the best place to make that argument. Maybe because this was where I was when I saw the 60k figure. Sorry if it was off-putting.
I feel like people keep going to Texas because the rent is too high in california, then they go back to California because there are no freedoms in Texas, which forces them to go back to Texas because there's no place to live in California as it's too expensive. And they're just stuck in this Loop
I feel like people keep going to Texas because the rent is too high in california, then they go back to California because there are no freedoms in Texas, which forces them to go back to Texas because there's no place to live in California as it's too expensive. And they're just stuck in this Loop
They must want electricity like they've heard about in camp fire stories.
I can't tell if this is just a joke about their electricity, or a joke about their electricity which happens to include a pun about the Camp Fire fires that started due to faulty electric transmission wires... if the latter, I salute you.
I often work in rural TX. I've had a number of Texans suggest I ought to move there, cause muh freedums. Yeah, I target shoot a little, but I'm lefty as hell. I talk about guns sometimes to deflect questions about my politics.
They are so full of themselves. They think because great grandpa was a cowboy that they inherit all his toughness. I don't know how grandpa lived, but I know Texans today live mostly in air conditioning and love shopping, huge portions, and convenience. They're fully convinced there is nowhere better on Earth. But no, I've been all over the Earth. TX sucks and I'd never move there.
They're fully convinced there is nowhere better on Earth.
Huh. So Texas is to Americans what America is to the world. Interesting.
(I'm mostly joking...)
Pretty much, I find it's funny that it's considered a Bastion of freedoms and a refuge away from the liberal policies of the world. When it actually is the state with the most human rights violations and the state where legally you actually have less personal freedom than any other state. I wouldn't go to Texas even if you paid me, I wouldn't go to Texas even if you could promise me a steak cooked on a propane grill by Hankster Hillington himself.
The thing is, if you think that way ("I would NEVER go to Texas"), then you're not really better than Texas, because the only image you have of Texas is what you've read online or what people have told you.
And this is coming from a progressive dude.
Edit: I've been schooled.
Or maybe I'm a transgender woman who doesn't want to get fucking lynched by some cowboy high off of oil fumes.
Shit. I hadn't considered that. My bad.
nope, just queer and fond of breathing! way to both-sides it though!
Whoops! When you put it that way, it makes sense. Lots of love.
I'm born and raised in the valley north of Sac. Moved to texas after freshman year of highschool and been here for almost 20 years. I married a texan and God damn if it isn't difficult to extricate a texan from texas. She has since become a travelling surgical tech and is seeing the country. It took her a whole 2 contracts to be ready to move away from texas.
texas fuckin blows. The only people trying to stay here are the ones that have never left to see what's out there.
I know that this will get buried in down votes, but I lived up and down the East Coast for the entirety of my childhood. I moved to Texas during my time in the military and fell in love. I'm wrapping up my degree now and honestly I don't want to leave. Your judgemental view of a few Texans does not represent all or even the majority of them.
Look, I never said there was nothing to like about TX, or that everyone is awful. I don't get jobs in Austin, or any of the major cities really. Guadalupe Mountains National Park is lovely and Big Bend is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen.
But you know what I don't like? Knowing full well that the instant I go mask off, and the small town locals realize I'm a gender-nonconforming, socialist, atheist, antifascist, who thinks Trump should be buried in the NYC sewer, it's just possible all that fake friendliness might disappear, and I could soon need to defend myself against multiple assailants. Fortunately I blend well, but I was nearly assaulted down there just for wearing a mask during the height of COVID. Do you think I called the cops? I'm not much of a fighter. I'm a cuddly bear. People don't usually mess with me. Maybe in cities people are cool. Maybe. I do not feel safe just being myself in most places, but especially not TX. Sure, there are lots of belligerent assholes in small towns across the country. I've been all over, but Texans go hard about it.
You see, they aren't just the meanest gullible suckers in your state who might try to beat my ass or kill me; those are a dime a dozen. They are the people in your state with actual wealth and power. They are the cops. They are the judges. If I lose the fight I might die. What hell would unleash if I won? You think TX is a free state? Only if you consider punching down one of your basic freedoms. I can't imagine what it'd be like if I wasn't a white dude. If they wanna fight, they should fight as equals. Otherwise is just... Well, it sure ain't tough.
Do you know what you like about Texas, that makes it stand out from other places you’ve lived?
After living on the East Coast, I can tell you the people in Texas are far friendlier. Beyond that, the skies go on forever and they're absolutely beautiful. I love the hiking and outdoors, I love the use of public land (Sam Houston National Forest, and several state parks). I really like diversity of culture, the Six Flags that flew over Texas each has left their mark on the state, as well as the immigrants that have moved here afterwards. The Mexican, German, and currently Asian immigrants to the state have each brought their own food and cultures as well. I love the arts scene in Austin and the way the performing arts are done at the high school level in the states. The major state marching band competitions are tremendous and I love how much everyone loves it. The only thing I dislike about Texas most of the time is the heat.
The Mexican, German, and currently Asian immigrants to the state have each brought their own food and cultures as well.
Lol, Mexicans didn't necessarily bring their culture to Texas...
Daily reminder that Texas sucks. So do Republicans.
Similar thing is happening here in Washington. A lot of people from Austin moving here because Texas politics are terrible.
Georgia ain’t great but it’s orders better than Texas and I bailed for Washington last year. Had to get out while the getting was good
I moved from Texas to Washington about 12 years ago. I noticed pretty quickly after moving that damn near any time I drive, I can spot a car with Texas plates if I look for one. I saw one just yesterday while I was taking a walk.
Texas politics are homo- and transphobic. Gladly a certain Trans Texan Twitch streamer left the state for safety.
And just straight up homicidal. How many people died in the summer AND winter because of their moronic power grid?
But but but I was told during the pandemic that these blue states were going to die because everyone was leaving for FREEDOM in TX and FL.
This is going to be really interesting to watch. If you look at the data over some decades, California has had cycles of net influx and net loss of people. We were losing people at a low rate for a bit before the pandemic, but it really increased drastically during it. Most people think it's because the availability of remote work surged, so people kept their salaries and went to places where the cost of living is cheaper. But with more companies wanting at least some in-office days, how many might come back? Should be interesting.
What an odd chart. Do the authors do any kind of correlation analysis on something like interest rates or median housing prices to explain the seasonality?
Most of the people I know who moved to Austin are looking to come back to the west coast due to concerns about their civil rights being removed and their overall safety. Blue city in a red state used to be a viable strategy, but several Republican governors are centered that the big centralized state government can tell the cities what to do, while simultaneously saying that the federal government can’t tell them what to do.
Yeah, the polarization between red and blue states has become pretty frightening, honestly. It's been theorized that the draconian laws against personal rights and freedoms in some red states is an actual Republican strategy to chase away liberals and moderates to prevent those states from turning purple, which is a real possibility for the ones with big population centers that tend to be blue.
Here's the article that that graph came from, and it has a bit of analysis with some other data, though maybe not what you're looking for.
Hey look it's me in the future.
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I get that this a quip, but it actually is. Weather patterns are a lot more forgiving of the un sheltered. To the point where other states will send their homeless to us. As if we weren't putting enough people out.
How could it possibly be better than like, southern Cali?
I swear if I was ever homeless and without dependents, I'd just start walking southwest. Fuck being homeless in the winter up north.
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