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Preparing for the hug of death
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I'm here from Reddit.... Gimme hugs!
Another reddit refugee here and this is my first ever comment on Lemmy.ml (or any of the Lemmy instances, for that matter). Welcome!
We'll explore this weird new world t together!
And another one here. Let reddit burn to the ground with their own VC greed.
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Created my own instance to help out. Created a few communities, hopefully they'll become searchable from the big instances soon.
Someone has to search for the full address and then follow a community for it to be followed by a server.
Put some links to your communities, I'll sub to start the link
I've made three so far -
https://1337lemmy.com/c/thesopranos
https://1337lemmy.com/c/chicubs
https://1337lemmy.com/c/chibears
The link has finally been made, so no need to sub unless you'd like to. Thanks for offering!
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In the future, there's nothing that says you or anyone else can't create accounts on a few of the large instances and subscribe to communities on your own instance to make this link happen!
Thank you for your service.
It'll be good practice for when a bunch of third party apps die and some post about "how to go about delete your stuff and registering on this list of alternatives in just a few easy steps" comes up.
And by practice, I mean that the horse corpse is going to be fucking pulverized.
Those lists are already up, and a few instances are already down
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It would make a great stress test though when suddenly millions join Lemmy :)
Reddit chose a very bad time to mess up, right when we're in the middle of coding some of our biggest performance improvements. They timed this perfectly to make things as stressful as possible for nutomic and I lol.
Great work and good luck!!!
I've been busy too recently and I just noticed yesterday the influx of new users... So I've updated and upgraded the server a bit. Hopefully I can keep my instance running smoothly and contribute a little bit that way!
The ones that really want to get in, would wait a long time i guess, like i certainly would! The only reason i am not here months ago, is because i did not know this place existed
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No stress test needed, every admin has already said they know it's going down
And after the 1st of July too, probably
Definitely not. Before people were migrating from Twitter only just to go back
Don't know. The thing with Mastodon is that you wouldn't find people to follow and it lacked features people wanted.
Lemmy here is way more entertaining already. Of course a lot of people will just check it out and go back but I think enough will stick around. Like a small subreddit you enjoy and slowly grows.
Let's hope so! I wish for a slow but steady growth.
I fear that we wont be so lucky. If a million people try to check out Lemmy at once, all the instances can go down.
Part of the problem is that when a new user starts exploring Lemmy, they see the list of "most popular instances" and are inclined to gravitate towards them, when it's really not necessary to join them to interact with them... As a recent Reddit refugee, that was what I struggled with the most.
Honestly I joined lemmy.ml because it had the description that most closely matched my interests without feeling like I'm joining one single person's home lab experiment. I think we would need a few more large general purpose (vanilla) instances.
On the other hand I wonder if it doesn't make more sense to condense communities/topics into single, topic-specialized servers. I can't imagine, from a UI perspective subscribing to 100 different news communities and another 100 gaming communities and... I feel like the current UI just isn't designed with this in mind.
It'd definitely be neat if there was a way to group those similar communities into single, shared communities between federated instances. Like, if 6 different instances have "Gaming" communities, to have them all effectively grouped into a single one, and also include the "Gaming" communities from any other instances that you federate with in the future.
I think the ideal UX would be to be able to see one "Gaming" community, subscribe to it, and check a box for "Include Similar Federated Communities" or something, and have posts from all of them show up in your feed, without having to individually subscribe to them.
I think the ideal UX would be to be able to see one "Gaming" community, subscribe to it, and check a box for "Include Similar Federated Communities" or something, and have posts from all of them show up in your feed, without having to individually subscribe to them.
I see an important hurdle to that: moderation rules are still specific to instances. So "multis" create some side effect UI challenges. In fact I think the current UI lacks reminders about which community you are participating in.
But I really like and support your "Include Similar Federated Communities" suggestion.
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Perhaps instances should be promoted according to current and predicted capacity.
That'd be great. Or even show a list of communities, rather than instances, and let the user find some communities that interest them first, then gravitate towards an instance from there (though that might not solve the problem if the most popular communities are from the most popular instances.)
Could even promote smaller instances that are federated with the popular instances, instead of promoting the popular instances directly.
Making the understanding of lemmy's internal infrastructure incumbent upon users seems a bit ... clunky. I work in IT, I get why it works this way, but I don't see how making it so apparent it serves any benefit to users.
If any user can participate in any community regardless of instance, does anything matter other than instance capacity? The sign up could just automatically select an instance on that basis (but also provide the user the option to select one manually).
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True, I've seen larger websites go down due to Reddit's "hug of death". I imagine that even the limited blackout will take down the more popular instances.
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I could never wrap my head around the discoverability and reach issues -- I haven't had any problems with either of those, and I'm running a solo server (though I've come to suspect that there was maybe a jargon and expectation barrier, and they just couldn't overcome the different layout).
What I can understand is running away from the somewhat, uh, hostile welcome many of them got. Instead of bringing people in and helping them acclimate, a bunch of folks just got up in new peoples' faces and gave them no room to make faux pas.
I don't see that happening here. The crowd that's showed up over the last week or so has been made up of core Reddit folks, and the atmosphere is very Reddit in nature.
It's just the volume of content that is missing, and that already feels like it's inching toward critical mass and can become self-sustaining.
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People would only migrate from Twitter if a lot of famous people migtated first.
I think this is it. On Lemmy and some of Reddit it doesn't matter who you are, as long as you behave yourself and bring thoughtful discussion with you. Twitter was more about following tweets from famous people groups, and finding people that outwardly display doing interesting things, so they would want more famous people to increase adoption.
yeah this is a bit different. It depends on where the best conversation is. I think we'll see a pretty large boom over the next few weeks, then a pretty solid decline, but if the devs are smart about it, some solid steady growth from there.
Over time we should be angling for "Oh yeah, I forgot I had an account over there, maybe I should check it out" as people see more and more links
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People go to twitter to see what famous people and influencers have to say.
People to go Reddit for the consolidated forums while also being able to browse a bunch of other entertainment and memes all in one shot. Or at least I do. The breadth of offerings of Reddit is a selling point.
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July 1st is when all the 3rd party apps will start dying. There will probably be an influx of people who weren't paying much attention or were hoping that nothing would really happen that suddenly start looking for an alternative when it affects them directly.
Its also possible that Reddit rows back from the API change (at least temporarily). I hope they do, so that we have a bit more time to get Lemmy ready.
On one hand, I think this is the best opportunity for lemmy to grow exponentially in terms of reddit immigrants. It would be great to take advantage of this since if many users from reddit have a good experience with lemmy it's free word of mouth advertising over at reddit. Plus I'm not sure reddit will do something like this again in the foreseeable future after their IPO comes out.
On the other hand, I completely understand that there are technical challenges that need to be addressed, and a user that's trying lemmy out for the first time would probably get turned off if it seems like lenny is unstable and/or there's not much content to engage him/her.
Id love for lenny to evolve and grow. I've only been here ~48 hours but I'm already less stressed and the community so far has been good to me. I'll still promote lenny even after this API issue until they ban me. Lol.
Yeah, I imagine potentially getting a couple extra zeros in the userbase of a still relatively small project in the space of like a month is more than just a little overwhelming. I hope reddit does at least allow more time for the API changes for a whole bunch of reasons, but I'm afraid they might really be planning on killing off third party apps before their IPO later this year.
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I've been part of Ruqqus & Imzy, I hope that this time it will be a success! (hopium overdose)
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