The problem isn't the ships it's the insane amount of diesel they suck down. We already run giant ships powered by nuclear reactors.

Cruise ships are pretty big polluters, yes. Cruise passengers have about 8x the emissions that they'd have from a comparable land-based vacation.

But when people talk about ship pollution, they're usually talking about non-carbon pollution.

For example, ships often burn heavy fuel oil, which produces tons of sulfur dioxide, which causes acid rain, and NOX, which depletes the ozone and causes smog and asthma.

Cruise ships are bad for the environment, but there's honestly bigger fish to fry. Gas power plants are way, way worse for the planet.

No they may not. We acknowledge they’re filthy, rife with noro and other viruses, and aside from other pollution, dump raw sewage into open water.

when theyve cleaned up their climate mess.

Ah, a doe eyed optimist, I see.

This oligarch party ain't stopping until everything that can burn does. At this point hope is irrational, a side effect of rational despair.

No one tells the wealth class anything. They tell us, and we obey like good lil capital generating livestock.

Apart from the areas others have mentioned they are also absolutely terrible for the local environment due to the number of tourists they drop on an area. We should ban them for that alone

Yeah that was my first thought. I'm willing to bet the company declares bankruptcy soon.

Seems like fraud to announce that close to leaving, the monthly payments on top makes it worse.

Was wondering if I floated a bad thousand dollar check if my restitution would be allowed in monthly installments.

It's worse even, they couldn't afford the ship. They claimed the sale was taking too long, when they couldn't afford it, and another company bought it out from under them.

Larger companies do this often... but they build their own ships

Idk man. You go hang out on a cruise for a bit you will find some old people who have made cruising their entire retirement plan. Basically just staying on boats going from port to port until they die.

Which actually doesn’t sound all too bad. I’d think it’d get old after the first few weeks (I never heard Cupid Shuffle so many damn times in one week), but hey, whatever floats your boat.

It's cheaper than a lot of retirement homes in America. Cruises outside of Caribbean voyages in peak season are like 90% retirees. It's a more viable option for a lot of people. If this 3yr cruise was a lot cheaper per day, it would make a lot of sense for them.

Not my idea of a good time either but it was appealing to some people. Cruises are incredibly popular. I'd only go if it were free and I was unable to sell the ticket(s).

I am legally required to say no.

~~yes tho~~

Maybe, maybe not. But if you're paying back in monthly installments, there's still going to be a lot of interest for you to live off of in the meantime.

Getting that money out of the company to use is very hard and can be traced/returned. It's not like they've got 180M in cash. And having your company bank exclusively with shady banks is likely to prevent you from getting a business license.

The article itself seems quite factual and straightforward. The comment section on the other hand…

Even at $30k per year it was ridiculously cheap. I have a friend of a friend that was going to do this for his retirement. $2500 per month for a room and board that allows you to spend your life sailing from port to port is actually a great deal, and if/when you need more medical care you simply move back off of the ship. The idea was that passengers could just buy another ticket and keep sailing for as many years as they wanted.

I called this one.

1. It sounded too good to be true. I had a feeling that they wouldn’t launch and if they did it’d be a floating Fyre Festival except with senior citizens who would not be able to escape.
2. Cruise ships are Petri dishes as it is. The idea of a cruise consisting of mostly elderly people who stay on board and mingle with crowds in the various ports of call sounds like a death cruise. Just imagine a viral outbreak on that ship that was killing passengers, resulting in a lockdown.
3. It was basically someone watching Wall-E and deciding that the dystopian part was actually a pretty idea.

$30k/year is what I saw...

Even 30k a year seems way cheap. Most of these "live at sea" "cruises" are orders of magnitude more expensive.