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Help me choose my mobile browser (programming.dev)
submitted 11 months ago by itsaj26744@programming.dev to c/privacy@lemmy.ml
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As per title, Help me choose a browser for android I have non rooted device. After all the researches I found best for me would be 1: Mull but with Some way for knowing which site have saved any data on my device (Maybe by extension or some defined page like about:config type) But as per my research I do not found any such thing. 2:Cromite or like it but with extension support like kiwi. 3:Privacy browser but just give assurance that google will not track me (as I have nonrooted device I have default webview).

I dont think that Vivaldi,Opera or brave stand anywhere when it is about privacy.

Help/advice/correct me!

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[-] Norgur@kbin.social 11 points 11 months ago

I think you might try to bite off more than you can chew here. You keep insisting that you want to somehow see the data that's saved on your device. Why exactly do you want to inspect the local cache of those sites? What do you expect the benefit to be? And what's more: what do you expect such a local cache to look like?

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

I just want to know which site I am logged in and to remove those data in order to logout

Like on desktop I remove all data from settings of firefox from sites I am not using. Hope I a clear to you

Btw I want to have clear look that data just as on desktop but as addons will provide that data I think It is going to look bad But thats okay

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago

Yeah, okay. So: Clearing Browser cache is a common feature in any webbrowser (even Chrome, and if Chrome has it, everyone has)

Regarding insights into the local cache: Are you technically versed enough to understand what you are seeing? If not, what good would looking at the cache do to you? I mean, whatever is in that cache is no indication about your privacy at all. As @minitycactus found out, Wikipedia logs your last visit. Do they spy on you? Very probably not. Besides, whatever they put into local cache is not something they have on their servers,

I wouldn't put too much energy into a search for that specific feature.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

I use Firefox focus for random browsing, normal Firefox for general browsing that I want to keep the history of, and Mull for anything where I want to absolutely minimize tracking / enhance privacy.

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 3 points 11 months ago

Do u use FF sync?

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 2 points 11 months ago

Not usually, I don't find it necessary most of the time. I have a separate pw manager (bitwarden) and if I need to share tabs I just message myself

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Trying to do same (with keepass and taking bookmarks in .md) BTW what u do for bookmarks?

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 1 points 11 months ago

I personally like to keep them separate as I use the different devices for different purposes. I don't really ever have more than the visible row of bookmarks at any one time. If I need to save something I'm not using often, I'll archive the page. Like for recipes in particular I have a directory filled with them.

[-] psychhim@mastodon.social 1 points 11 months ago

@itsaj26744 @Daxtron2 I use Tor browser for most the stuff, DuckDuckDuck browser with tor/vpn for the things which aren't supported in Tor browser.

[-] bbbhltz@beehaw.org 4 points 11 months ago

Not a complete answer, but I stand behind Privacy Browser. The dev has a great blog explaining how the browser works:

https://www.stoutner.com/webview/

https://www.stoutner.com/privacy-browser-android/core-privacy-principles/

https://www.stoutner.com/privacy-browser-android/permissions/

I appreciate the transparency of the Dev and I am looking forward to the long-teased 4.x series that will ship with its own webview.

If you decide not to use it, keep it on your watchlist.

[-] ashtrix@lemmy.ca 2 points 11 months ago

Seconded. It's my default browser and the amount of control it provides is fantastic.

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Its is in obtanium will use it as disposable browser when ready.

[-] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

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[-] tarneo@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

I use Iceraven with ublock, privacy badger, decentraleyes and canvasblocker.

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

But I want to know site data saved on my device,Any way!

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 11 months ago

Cookie quick manager on Mull.

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Cookie is not only form of data saved?

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[-] pylapp@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago

Why not using Firefox, Firefox Focus or Brave?

[-] Lemongrab@lemmy.one 3 points 11 months ago

Because Mull is hardened Firefox without telemetry. Brave is Chromium based and the company is shady.

[-] java@beehaw.org 2 points 11 months ago

How? It's not on F-Droid. Play store is obviously not an option for a person, who cares about privacy.

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[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

U did not readed it well. As firefox on android do not have sandboxing and segregation things It cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc. Firefox due to same reason cannot tell about WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE.I need to know that info so I am asking for any solution but as per what I know there are no solutions

Sorry for poor english

[-] WindowsEnjoyer@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago

cant give individual websites permissions like js cookie etc.

Don't you think there is a reason why none of browsers provide this feature? Do you seriously want to open a website and be greeted with 30 pop ups asking "do you want to allow javascript on api.example.com website?". Then instantly "do you want to allow loading static images/media on api.example.com website?". Point is - it's not how web works.

WHICH SITE IS SAVING WHAT DATA ON MY DEVICE

Imagine in your perfect world you get a pop up saying "Firefox has detected that example.com has saved 2 cookies on your device and they consume 43 bytes of your storage space. Do you want to delete them?". Again, even if it saves cached data (static images) - why would you care? Firefox has addons that can help you to get rid of tracking cookies.

Please learn on how internet works. There is no such thing as "website", especially in your context. Technically, your requested features could be possible to implement, but that would break like 100โ„… of websites. And what you are probably looking for is something like Postman, but for Android. ๐Ÿ™†

[-] Jajcus@kbin.social 1 points 11 months ago

But all this is available in desktop Firefox. Partially built-in, partially via add-ons. The mobile version is very limited.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Noscript does exactly that. Poorly there is no exception to allow x origin only on y domain. But yeah, its supported very well

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[-] koper@feddit.nl 1 points 11 months ago

The uMatrix add-on for Firefox seems to do what you want.

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

Discontinued

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[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 1 points 11 months ago

This makes no sense. Firefox with noscript and "forgetmenot" can selectively allow Javascript per domain, and to save cookies.

This cookie quick manager is probably an extension you want.

https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/collections/17446767/Fenix-Addons/

This is a custom addon collection, I will add cookie quick manager if its missing

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Thanks this is exact thing I was looking for. A bit more explanation

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[-] Sanchokan@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

Bromite

[-] Pantherina@feddit.de 8 points 11 months ago

Not developed anymore and insecure!

[-] pec@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago

use cromite instead

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[-] Fake4000@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I would say go with either chromite or firefox. Both are private, supported for now, and can block ads (UBO on firefox)

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

U did not readed it I want some extensionised version of cromite or site data in firefox

[-] moreeni@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

https://www.privacyguides.org/en/mobile-browsers/

https://divestos.org/pages/browsers

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago

Second article says gecko browser do have site data isolation.Is there any way I can know Indivudual site data saved on my device

[-] Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

You are aware that they do not need to save the data to your device to track you, right?

[-] itsaj26744@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago

Ya I know and I dont want complete anonymity either.

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[-] soyboy77@lemmy.ml 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Really liking Vivaldi so far. The baked in adblocking and encrypted syncing is neat. Everybody also always recommends Brave as "good out of the box" where you can use it straight away without any tinkering...

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