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submitted 1 year ago by GiddyGap@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world

Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft has proposed asking voters whether they are in favor of allowing “dangerous and unregulated abortions until live birth.”

What a dumbass.

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[-] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

It's a fun twist to see GOP campaign logic dumped on their head. Ten years ago the specter of abortion got the religious fundies to the polls with monotonous regularity. Now that Roe was struck down, abortion rights on the ballot leads to clear Democratic victories.

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 29 points 1 year ago

On the bright side, Republicans already tried fucking with the language in Ohio, and we all saw how well that went.

Give it up, you troglodytes. Nobody wants your anti-choice bullshit.

[-] Djtecha@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

This argument makes zero sense. Wouldn't a legal abortion tend to have more regulation then an illegal abortion, or for those in the know a back ally abortion? And the gall to back it up with intention to be the clearest explanation on the ballot, what a douche nozzle.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

The problem is that they don't want abortions to be safe, rare, and legal. They want abortions to be non-existent. If women need to go to back alleys where some guy with a hanger will perform a dangerous abortion on them, then "that's their punishment for having sex."

They ignore that some women get abortions after being raped - when they literally had no choice in sex occuring. (Or, they blame the woman for the rape ala "she shouldn't have been drinking and shouldn't have worn that dress, it's all her fault.") They also ignore that some women WANT to have the baby, but things go wrong during the pregnancy and the choices are either abortion or carry a dead/dying fetus inside them until they both die.

The details don't matter. All that matters is that they control women's lives (and likely deaths).

[-] awnery@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

when dark comedy just isn't funny

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Every word.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Why'd they have to put a picture of him in the article?

I'm trying to eat here.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

So this would allow safe, regulated abortions and also allow dangerous, unregulated abortions after live birth. That's a little extreme for me. I can't support post-birth abortions.

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I also hate post-birth abortions which is why I don't like people shooting up my kid's school.

[-] Whattrees 13 points 1 year ago

^ Found the dumbass who didn't even read the article and has zero understanding of how abortions work.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I think it was a not especially good attempt at a joke.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

Not even a joke so much as a literal interpretation of the proposed law. It only bans unsafe and unregulated abortions, and only up to the point of live birth. If it became a law with that language, how is that going to be interpreted by the courts? This attempt to inject partisan language cuts any actual meaning from the law. He's trying so hard to manipulate the vote that the resultant law doesn't even do what he wants it to. Irony is the humor here.

[-] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

allow dangerous, unregulated abortions after live birth

This is not a thing that exists.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked to learn this!

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Missouri lawmakers have already banned abortion except in cases of medical emergency, but proponents of broader access to the procedure are seeking to put a question about it directly before voters next year.

Secretary of State Jay Ashcroft has proposed asking voters whether they are in favor of allowing “dangerous and unregulated abortions until live birth.”

Ashcroft, who is running for governor in 2024, said his wording “fairly and accurately reflects the scope and magnitude” of each of the six proposed abortion rights ballot measures.

“My responsibility as secretary of state is to make sure the people of Missouri have ballot language that they can understand and trust,” Ashcroft said in a news release.

Earlier this month, Ohio voters approved a constitutional amendment that ensures access to abortion and other forms of reproductive health care.

There are efforts to protect or expand access in Arizona, Florida, Nevada and South Dakota; and to restrict it in Iowa, Nebraska and Pennsylvania.


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