Thing is: there is always the "next better thing" around the corner. That's what progress is about. The only thing you can do is choose the best available option for you when you need new hardware and be done with it until you need another upgrade.
Exactly. The best time to buy a graphics card is never
really my rule of thumb has always been when it's a significant upgrade.
for a long time i didn't really upgrade until it was a 4x increase over my old. certain exceptions were occasionally made. nowadays i'm a bit more opportunistic in my upgrades. but i still seek out 'meaningful' upgrades. upgrades that are a decent jump over the old. typically 50% improvement in performance, or upgrades i can get for really cheap.
4x…? Even in older cards that’s more than a decade between cards.
A 4080 is only 2.5x as powerful as a 1080ti, those are 5 years apart.
What's wrong with upgrading once every 5-10 years? Not everyone plays the latest games on 4k Ultra
Admittedly 4x is a bit steep, more like 3-4x
Starfield requires a minimum 1070ti to play. It’s not just about fidelity, you just wouldn’t be able to play any newer games.
It depends on what you need. I think usually you can get the best bang for buck by buying the now previous generation when the new one is released.
Yeah it's always that: "I want to buy the new shiny thing! But it's expensive, so I'll wait for a while for its price to come down." You wait for a while, the price comes down, you buy the new shiny thing and then comes out the newest shiny thing.
Yep. There will always be "just wait N months and there will be the bestest thing that beats the old bestest thing". You are guaranteed to get buyers remorse when shopping for hardware. Just buy what best suits you or needs and budget at the time you decided is the best.time for you (or at the time your old component bites the dust) and then stop looking at any development on those components for at least a year. Just ignore any deals, new releases, whatever and be happy with the component you bought.
I bought a 1080 for my last PC build, downloaded the driver installer and ran the setup. There were ads in the setup for the 2k series that had launched the day before. FML
Yep. I bought a 4080 just a few weeks ago. Now there is ads for the refresh all over... Thing is: you card didn't get any worse. You thought the card was a good value proposition for you when you bought it and it hasn't lost any of that.
choose the best available option
"The" point. Which is the best available option?
The simplest answer would be "price per fps".
Not always. I'm doing a lot of rendering and such. So FPS aren't my primary concern.
Or ever.
just 10-15 years at least, for smartphones\electronics overall too. Process nodes are now harder to reduce, more than ever. holding up to my 12nm ccp phone like there is no tomorrow ..
i saw a 4080 on amazon for 1200, shits crazy
As a Linux gamer, this really wasn't on the cards anyway
AMD is a better decision, but my nVidia works great with Linux, but I'm on OpenSUSE and nVidia hosts their own OpenSUSE drivers so it works out of the get go once you add the nVidia repo
I had an nvidia 660 GT back in 2013, it was a pain in the arse being on a leading edge distro, used to break xorg for a couple of months every time there was an xorg release (which admittedly are really rare these days since its in sunset mode). Buying an amd was the best hardware decision, no hassles and I've been on Wayland since Fedora 35.
Major refresh means what nowadays? 7 instead of 4 percent gains compared to the previous generation?
The article speculates a 5% gain for the 4080 super but a 22% gain for the 4070 super which makes sense because the base 4070 was really disappointing compared to the 3070.
For anything ML related, having the additional memory is worth the investment, as it allows for larger models.
That said, at these prices it raises the question if it is more sensible to just throw money at GCP or AWS for their GPU node time.
All three cards are rumored to come with the same memory configuration as their base models...
Sigh.
freezes
stands there with my credit card in my hand while the cashier stares at me awkwardly
Meh I'm still gonna buy a 4070 Ti on Black Friday. Wish I could wait but my other half wants a PC for Christmas.
It really is a risky bet to make.
I doubt full price RTX 4080 SUPER upgrade will worth it over a discounted regular RTX 4080.
SUPER upgrades never crossed the +10%
I’d rather wait for the Ti version
really the RTX 4080 is going to be a sweet spot in terms of performance envelope. that's a card you'll see with some decent longevity, even if it's not being recognized as such currently.
It would help if they had any competitors. AMD and Intel aren’t cutting it.
My AMD card is great.
Pretty damn happy with my 7900XTX too.
Swapped over to a 7800XT about 3 months ago. Better Linux performance, tested a bit on Windows also and it worked fine, I'm more than satisfied with my decision to hop over from my 3060.
AMD is definitely pulling their load, but more competitors are always better.
Intel is definitely catching up.
For the vast majority of customers that aren't looking to spend close to a grand for a card that is infinitesimally better than a card for half the price, AMD has plenty to offer.
AMD is absolutely cutting it!! They may not get DLSS or ray trace as well but their cards still kick ass
Only slightly related question: is there such a thing as an external nVidia GPU for AI models? I know I can rent cloud GPUs but I am wondering if long-term something like an external GPU might be worth it.
A 3090 (used) is the best bang for your buck for any LLM / StableDiffusion work right now. I've seen external GPU enclosures, though they probably cost as much as slapping a used 3090 into a barebones rig and running it headless in a closet.
Generally speaking, buying outright is always cheaper than renting, because you can always continue to run the device potentially for years, or sell it to reclaim some capital.
Perhaps this is a good place to ask now the topic has been raised. I have an ASUS TUF A15 laptop with an nVidia GTX 1650Ti graphics card and I am SO sick of 500MB driver "updates" that are basically beta tests that break one thing or another. What are the chances of upgrading to a Raedon/AMD graphics card? Or am I stuck with this shit?
have an ASUS TUF A15 laptop with an nVidia GTX 1650Ti graphics card and I am SO sick of 500MB driver “updates” that are basically beta tests that break one thing or another. What are the chances of upgrading to a Raedon/AMD graphics card? Or am I stuck with this shit?
in a laptop? practically none. there are some very rare 'laptops' out there - really chonk tops - that have full size desktop gpu's inside them. the vast majority, on the other hand, will have 'mobile' versions of these gpus that are basically permanently connected to the laptop's motherboard (if not being on the mobo itself).
one example of a laptop with a full-size gpu (legacy, these aren't sold anymore): https://www.titancomputers.com/Titan-M151-GPU-Computing-Laptop-workstation-p/m151.htm note the THICK chassis - that's what you need to hold a desktop gpu.
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