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[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 77 points 1 year ago

History will not be kind to Florida

[-] ZeroCool@feddit.ch 80 points 1 year ago

History

I'm pretty sure it's illegal to teach that in Florida.

[-] Zorque@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Only in the context of the truth.

[-] rynzcycle@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm currently visiting a friend in Florida, and frankly, the present isn't too kind to Florida either.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Not if they ban history books /s

[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 52 points 1 year ago

Now, Vary has filed a complaint with the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission, which could prompt a legal challenge of the “Don’t Say Gay” law’s expansion.

Does this have any chance of doing anything? I'm very surprised at their boldness to document exactly why they were firing them - do they think they can withstand the legal challenge or are they just stupid? (it's always hard to guess with homophobes)

[-] xkforce@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Theyre boundary testing like all sociopaths inevitably do.

[-] Holzkohlen@feddit.de 24 points 1 year ago

If this does not violate some anti-discrimination laws that you are doing law wrong. I am fairly certain this would not be legal in my country.

[-] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 20 points 1 year ago

Last year a trans teacher in my country was not only removed but also libeled so badly she had to kill herself, the news were more or less like "see? she was actually mentally ill"... For those who don't remember, source but not for the faint of heart.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago
[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

I'm all for gender-inclusive language and try to use it as much as possible (ie "mail person" instead of "mail man" and using "they" instead of defaulting to "he" when gender is unknown). But God am I tired of replacing everything with an X, haha.

I'd just call them "teacher [last name]" like how college professors tend to go by "professor [last name]" and call it a day.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Latinx is hated by the majority of Hispanic people because it's unpronounceable in Spanish, so you can drop that one.

(Am Hispanic ftr, despise the term)

[-] Bunnylux@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

A nonbinary person of Hispanic origins I watch on YouTube uses 'Latine'

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah that's a more generally agreed upon one. I personally use Hispanic or Latino as an adjective, and Latine for singular gender neutral

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 3 points 1 year ago

Ok but it's not a Spanish term. Do they also complain about all the other English words that exist?

Not that I support latinx, but that's a pretty lame excuse to be against it

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Nah, Latino is a word that springs from spanish. It isn't actually an English word, it just got borrowed.

So, not only was the word co-opted from Latino people, the crazy crackers decided that they could ignore the objections of Latinos to the change to their words. That's as opposed to the not-crazy crackers that know better than to fuck around with someone else's internal labels

Seriously my dude, if you don't know any latinos well enough to ask about this kind of thing, you're missing out. My best friend's husband is Nicaraguan, and he'll do this half hour long rant in spanglish about it that is impressive in both scope and venom. And you don't even wanna hear his mom go off about it! She gets mean lol.

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 5 points 1 year ago

Latino is a word that springs from spanish. It isn't actually an English word, it just got borrowed.

Lol what? Where do you think English gets me out of its words.

So, not only was the word co-opted from Latino people

Copoted? Are you kidding?

the crazy crackers decided that they could ignore the objections of Latinos to the change to their words

"Their" words? The term originated from LGBT AMERICAN Latinos. It's an English term because it originated in American by Americans Latino heritage. You need to stop gatekeeping basic words.

if you don't know any latinos well enough to ask about this kind of thing

Ask about what kind of thing? If they don't like it that's totally fine. I really don't care one way or the other. It has 0 impact on me. But to say the word itself is racist and co-opted is also just stupid

and he'll do this half hour long rant in spanglish about it that is impressive in both scope and venom. And you don't even wanna hear his mom go off about it! She gets mean lol.

What does this have to do with anything other than people can have preferences

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Ok but it's not a Spanish term.

Who told you that?

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

Why do you think it's a Spanish term?

[-] audiomodder 22 points 1 year ago

I’m a nonbinary teacher. My students just call me by my last name with no honorific most of the time

[-] papalonian@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

How do you assert your authority over a bunch of children without forcing them to acknowledge your superiority every time they address you? /s

[-] audiomodder 10 points 1 year ago
[-] yote_zip@pawb.social 9 points 1 year ago

Most commonly yes. There are other ways to pronounce it and I suppose if the person pronounces it differently I'd go with what they say.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Guess this is why I like college. I just call everybody Professor and not risking strange looks or offending anybody.

[-] ASprigOfSage@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The article states that the teacher in question asked if they could go by professor, to which the principal said was in violation of the same law. Which means in Florida you cannot call a teacher professor, as it is gender neutral.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 10 points 1 year ago
[-] snooggums@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago
[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What the fuck? Admittedly I didn't read the article because I thought they banned "they".

[-] potatopopcorn@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough, I think this depends on country. I'm in Australia and I've heard lecturers ask the class not to call them Professor since that is a title within the University (I'm guessing something similar to Captain in an Army). I think most couldn't care less, but I've had 1 or 2 ask in the first class not to use that title. So you can't win.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, it makes nonbinary people sound like rappers and I'm here for it

(Plus every NB person I know has a name like "blue" or "sock", which makes it especially fun)

[-] Franzia 1 points 1 year ago

How do they arrive at such bold names? I'm so jealous and yet... Perhaps not as brave either. I'm a transfem she/her rather than nonbinary.

[-] beebers@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Vary refused to go by the title “Ms”, and it was eventually decided that she would be fired – despite Florida’s ongoing teacher shortage crisis.

In an article that is focusing on gender identity, did Pink News mess up Vary's pronouns or am I missing something?

[-] greencactus@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Two months later still not fixed. Yep, they messed up.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

any news on all the people at that school using "Dr" improperly who didn't get fired?

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