Should have posted that chain-text to my Facebook wall years ago so my profile would be blue and safe...
Please forgive me,... I failed you all... 😭
Should have posted that chain-text to my Facebook wall years ago so my profile would be blue and safe...
Please forgive me,... I failed you all... 😭
I swear these specific copypastas are started by grad school sociology students for their thesis research or something.
Lmao completely forgot about that
"Your info won't be used for ads"
But we'll still be tracking everything you do and selling that on to everyone who wants it.
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I have fond memories of the Internet 20-25 years ago.
How did it turn into this much of a mess? Social Media, SEO, adverts, data mining, profiling, privacy nightmares... what a shit show.
The venture capital dollars started running out. Returns started being demanded. Companies that made slightly improved and/or more accessible versions of more open products extinguished those products using venture capital dollars then started rolling out the enshittification, demands for money, intrusive ads, spying, dark patterns, sabotaging, paid tiers.
Back in those days the internet was a curiosity. A hobby. A fun thing to share, something a company might hope to break even on or earn minor profits with, these days big profits are demanded, centralization. Addiction to high resolution and size video and image content which is expensive to host and serve. The network effect drained smaller sites and resources, concentrating people in larger venues that had the investment dollars to support them at the cost of their privacy. Combine with search engine optimization and it became harder to even find smaller places. Add in digitally uneducated kids who thought fb and such were most of the internet and never bother to venture beneath the top 6 google results and older people and this is what you have.
Take something like Omegle. I don't want to defend what it was for most of its existence as the bad outweighed the good IMO (like 4chan) but something like that if made today would require linking your facebook or google account and serve you video ads every 5 minutes on top of banner ads. But back then it was just something some random guy could make for fun and not think "hmm I need real identities to monetize these people to ad networks to pay for this and turn a big profit selling the data they input".
13€? Are they insane? If I were to use the platform I'd be willing to pay 3€ at most. 13€ is just ridiculous.
It's on purpose. They know most people won't pay, so now it's carte blanche to their data. And if somebody's desperate enough, they'll pay 13€ and meta will make more money on the user than with ads.
They will collect and sell your data either way. They just won't force ads down your throat if you pay them. This is what billionaires have done to our beloved internet.
The call to action button is the free plan, with subscribe having a secondary button style. That alone makes it clear they want to show you ads more than they want you to subscribe.
They don't want you to choose the paid option. They make more in the ads and info.
€12.99/mo. sounds wildly overpriced to me in comparison to 1) cost to serve and 2) ad revenue. I’m not an ad revenue expert, but I have a hard time believing they make anywhere near €13/user/mo. from advertisers.
I guess the information they gather is worth enough that overpricing the subscription makes them more likely to retain free users.
The wording and the dark pattern on this screen should be violating the rules already. They very clearly want people to stay on the free plan, and likely aren't even going to stop tracking users?
Maybe they just want to show how it "failed" and make a case that people don't care
My god I just glanced quickly and thought it was 2.99. Asking 12.99 is an absolute joke.
Meta makes their ARPU readily available to the public, so you really don't have to guess in this regard: https://www.statista.com/statistics/251328/facebooks-average-revenue-per-user-by-region/
Last quarter posted there, it was $19.04 for European users, or €17.84 with today's exchange rate.
Those appear to be per-quarter numbers, and if so that would mean ~€5.95/month.
FOSS alternative is PixelFed
Ive heard of it, and want to use it, but unfortunately the only reason Im still sticking with instagram is because I have very dear friends who would never change to anything non-mainstream.
This is called the network effect, it's a social problem and no amount of technology will solve this. So your choices are either to stop using apps where you are the product, and obviously convince your friends to stop that as well, or grin and bear it. Maybe think about what you did 20 years ago and do that instead.
I chose option C, don't use Instagram. But thanks, I guess!
The fact that the ad revenue button is more emphasized and easier to press (closer to screen edge) says a lot about the value of you being their product vs. you simply paying them for access.
Option 3: uninstall
The sane choice would be to leave.
foss alternative to Instagram
Pixelfed?
I setup my own pixelfed instance to share pictures of my kids and family. I own and control all the data on my server and no one gets to monetize pictures of my children.
Not many of my family members are on there but I still prefer it to Instagram
Anecdotally, the last time I checked my dormant Facebook feed it was deserted. I wonder how many people hit that message and just decide they can just nope out and not lose much of value.
I mean, that's what I did the first time it popped up. I only ever logged into that in case somebody was trying to reach me for work stuff, and that never actually happens, so...
As for whether this is GDPR compliant, it seems that FB was convinced it would get them past the newer post-GDPR regulations and the EU has strongly signalled that it really won't, so it's gonna be fun to watch from the sidelines.
I heard in a podcast that this is primarily to address the requirement to not target ads for under 18 and will be free to them. They probably have to offer it as a paid service for anyone 18+ and priced it so that no one actually does.
Without a doubt, everyone is still being tracked.
Just wait 5 months, they'll add a bullshit feature like custom fonts and raise the price 83%
Pixelfed for true alternative PWA works Instander exists
Wait, so it's either targeted ads or pay? Damn... Silly me thinking if you don't pay you still could opt out of targeted ads.
But yeah, isn't this against GDPR?
I'm certain it is. I sent an objection/data deletion request, and their "privacy info" pages are absolutely in violation of GDPR, because their forms are NOT reasonably accessible. I needed to use 3 separate mobile browsers and my desktop. When you finally get to the form, they ask some basic info, and the box where you're supposed to make a request ends by asking something like "what rights do you believe are being violated, and why?". The fucking gall on these cunts.
I planned on dropping some links, but they all have hard-coded non-functional redirects, which is intentional and absolutely infuriating. The redirects either just break like this one, which is suppose to be the one that contains a link to the form:
https://help.instagram.com/contact/117037592428568
Or they take you somewhere barely related, like this one which was the hidden start page for the form:
https://m.facebook.com/help/1221288724572426?wtsid=rdr_0bxiU4jakSVimlO8y
Or maybe it was this one? I can't remember, because it doesn't fucking take me to the page I saved the url for:
https://m.facebook.com/help/238318146535333?wtsid=rdr_0LKGtSJZTQyEH3R9N
Anyway, I'm mad if that's not obvious. If you happen to find the form, you can try opting out. I haven't heard back yet. Here's the thorough and crystal fucking clear message I wrote, feel free to copy/share it:
The rights granted to me as a resident of an EEA country and a citizen of an EU member state, which are outlined in the GDPR, would be violated if Meta is non-compliant to my requests and objections. I've noted the exact sections within the GDPR outlining my rights, just before each pertaining request/objection, to explain why I believe my rights and freedoms are impacted by the data processing (although, I should not need to explain why).
I am exercising my right to object outlined in GDPR Article 21 Sections 1, 2, and 6:
I object to the processing and collection of my personal data for direct marketing, and request that no further collection or processing of my personal data is carried out.
I am also exercising my right to erasure outlined in GDPR Article 17 Section 1 (b) and (c):
I request that all of my collected and/or processed personal data be erased.
I am also exercising my right of access outlined in GDPR Article 15 Section 1, Section 2, Section 3, and Section 4:
I request a full copy of my processed personal data, as well as any relevant details listed in each subsection of GDPR Article 15 Section 1.
If any of my personal data is stored under an email address other than the ones currently or previously associated with my account, then I will need the preceding requests and objections to be carried out for the personal data generated under each of the following: [all email addresses I've used anywhere in the past 20 years].
Before I suggest this, I'm not 100% how private and secure this is, but AeroInsta doesn't show any ads and promises not to send cookies and any of your data across.
Have you tried the options?I proceeded to checkout where it told me the price would stay that u til maj, where it would double because I have two accounts (Facebook and 2 xInstagram)
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