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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 73 points 2 years ago

Transportation officials also said the total cost of Buttigieg’s flights on FAA planes up to that time was about $42,000. Chao took 15 FAA flights early in the Trump administration, and the cost of just one of them, which was international, was nearly $69,000, the Post reports.

It's good both are being investigated, but definitely seems like Pete's isn't that big of a deal compared to what Republicans do

[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 88 points 2 years ago

I’m not convinced it is a good thing that both are being investigated if the investigation into Buttigieg is just political smearing. HRC’s emails show the cost of abusive investigations. Investigations aren’t cost free, either monetarily or in terms of public trust in institutions. It implies he did something worth investigating, and devalues the seriousness of real investigations, like those against Trump.

When the review was announced, Buttigieg had flown on FAA planes 18 times out of 138 flights for official trips since becoming secretary early in 2021, according to The Washington Post. He takes commercial flights most of the time, and when he uses FAA aircraft, it’s usually because it’s cheaper than commercial flights, a Department of Transportation spokeswoman said.

This does not seem to be something worth investigating.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 25 points 2 years ago

devalues the seriousness of real investigations

The only thing people like Green or Jordan doing Congress is distract, distract, distract.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Huh?

If they investigate him, and everything is cool, then it's cool... Which is what the article sounds like.

If he's abusing it, just to a much smaller degree, then that's still an issue.

Like, that's the whole point of not just holding people from your "own team" accountable. If someone might be doing something wrong, you investigate them no matter who they are.

Do you think an investigation means a huge thing where he testifies in front of Congress? That's not an investigation.

[-] chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

The problem with investigating false allegations, aside from the waste of tax payer money, is that the damage is done in the beginning of the investigation. The fascist talking points are now about excessive spending from the Democrats. They won't even bother retracting statements when they are found to be false.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

What do you think an investigation is?

It's just looking at his flights, and seeing if he was flying free when he should have been paying.

From the article, that's already been done.

How much do you think that possibly costs?

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

The republicans don’t care what the outcome of the investigation is. They just want to use it as a political gotcha.

Government investigations over frivolous things are a waste of taxpayer money and time.

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[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yeah, but when you have obvious and public cases of MASSIVE corruption in “your own team” and you fail to adress that… instead gojng after any “petty” corruption in the other team…

Yeah. That’s a problem.

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[-] SkepticalButOpenMinded@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

I am not against holding “my own team” accountable if there is some valid reason to think there is something worth investigating. If there isn’t, it is a witch hunt, and witch hunts are harmful. They can be used to harass, waste time, and slander by vague insinuation. More to the point, the public has finite attention. News of pointless investigations can be used strategically to drown out real ones, which is a threat to democracy. That is, I believe, what Republicans are presently doing.

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

The problem is, Republicans don't tell the truth. When you actually press the investigative committee into Hunter Biden about the evidence they have, they'll quietly murmur there isn't any. But otherwise, they'll very loudly suggest they have evidence and outright lie.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

Now do Greene!

(Ew that came out wrong. Don’t “do” crazy, folks!)

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

As usual, republicans try to make democrats doing something normal seem like a huge scandalous deal while they and their sleazy-ass media hyenas entirely ignore what “their side” did or does.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 59 points 2 years ago

The House Republicans truly have zero intention of doing their job or serving the needs of the country.

[-] s_i_m_s@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Still can't figure out why their voters either don't see it or don't care.

Like at least prior to trump you could kinda see it but now you just have to be in outright denial of reality.

[-] thatgirlwasfire@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

I believe they are convinced stuff like this helps them somehow

[-] init@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

By tearing their opponents down, they are comparatively better off with no actual gain

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 41 points 2 years ago

I wonder if MTG has actually ever done anything for her district. She's spending all her time with all these petty, childish antics. What a loser.

[-] joker125@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Spoiler: she hasn't.

[-] oDDmON@lemmy.world 37 points 2 years ago

Because they have absolutely nothing better to do. /s

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 19 points 2 years ago

Because"their goddamn jobs" is such a foreign concept.

"nobody wants to work anymore."

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I mean, fuck Buttigieg, but this is a pretty dangerous precedent.

Edit: c'mon people. He didn't do anything after the East Palestine disaster, he makes excuses for why we can't have high speed rail or even just a better Amtrak, and he hasn't done anything to reduce car centric design. He's the god damn secretary of transportation.

[-] donuts@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

he hasn’t done anything to reduce car centric design

In all fairness, this doesn't really fall under the purview of the Secretary of Transportation.

I think most urban design and planning happens at the local level, and the federal DoT is mostly responsible for allocating funds to state and local city governments.

[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

And I think it's not hard to argue that he did quite a bit towards reducing car-centric design as a mayor. Mayors have WAY more control over that stuff, in general. The DOTs are the DOTs. They're going to be conservative and they're going to waste money. They also don't really follow federal marching orders.

Biden/Buttigieg have pushed for more Amtrak investment than has happened in a long time, though, along with proposals for further expansion for local rail and BRT service. Just a typical case study in a progressive failing the leftist purity test.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

That's fair. I'm willing to concede that he doesn't have a major part to play in reducing car-centric design, though I think he could create general guidance for cities to follow

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

He's a McKinsey man...

The vast amount of issues with capitalism in our country can be traced back to young idiots in their 20s working for McKinsey telling CEOs the best thing they can do in any situation is layoffs is raising CEO pay.

They've also worked for pretty much every evil organization, including the Saudi government

John Oliver just did an episode on it a few weeks ago.

[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 7 points 2 years ago

It sucks that legitimate critism of democrats makes you sound like unhinged MAGA lunatic. Not that it's ever really gonna be a choice between fascism or their bebal incompetent feet dragging corruption, just a sad reality of our crappy two party system.

[-] havocpants@lemm.ee 7 points 2 years ago

just a sad reality of our crappy two party system.

As an outsider, it looks like the US only has a one party system now. One party and a group of spiteful, contrarian fascists trying to overthrow its democracy.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 3 points 2 years ago

As an insider, I can confirm that assessment is pretty accurate.

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 32 points 2 years ago

That would be retaliation and illegal.

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

How is that not a bill of attainder, accompanied by in-depth media confessions that it is in fact a bill of attainder?

FYI, a bill of attainder is legislation that imposes punishment on a specific person or group of people without a judicial trial

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago

I cannot wait until she falls into obscurity. Old and wrinkled sitting at a lonely table at a flea market gun show to sign photographs and nobody is paying her any attention.

[-] Cyyris@infosec.pub 25 points 2 years ago

How about maybe pass a fucking budget instead of wasting time and money on this bullshit.

[-] CapgrasDelusion@kbin.social 3 points 2 years ago

What do you mean? They are. If we stopped paying Pete we'd have the current US debt payed off in about 149,052,132 years. Maybe add a few hundred thousand years for interest but I don't believe that's significant.

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

But all the Republicans have is performative garbage.

And this is definitely performative. The salary change would need to go through the Senate and there's no way this passes. The House Republicans know this. They just want to "own the libz" by saying they'll reduce some salaries to $1.

It's easier than actually doing work.

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

She's going to make such a great washed up loser in a few years.

[-] MellowSnow@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago
[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

Oh, she can go down from here, my friend. Let's watch together.

[-] leadore@kbin.social 16 points 2 years ago

I think she's upset because "Secretary of Transportation" has the word "Trans" in it and she got confused.

[-] badaboomxx@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

They should do that with the gop ans republicans, after all they get their money thanks to bribes and companies paying them to legislate in their favor

[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

Damn did someone tell her what transportation means or...?

[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago

These are not serious people

[-] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Good way to spend time as a political representative

[-] brblitz@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Isn't that less than minimum wage?

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