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Individuals such as this should never be given any sort of publicity.
Unfortunately we are in the age of sensationalism, and lunatics like this one are widely reported because it drives more page views and more clicks.
And she’s 21. Like, I feel, as a society, we can comfortably take any brilliance from a 21 year old as someone who has a special insight worthy of sharing, but we can also disregard any of the more outlandish shit that comes out of 21 year olds mouths. A lot of 21 year olds are brash and full of bluster. All that can be written off as immature horseshit.
Again, some are wise beyond their years, or have a decent head on their shoulders and spend their fresh adulthood wisely, doing good. They can have bright, new ideas that should be listened to…but this is not a new idea, nor is it worth reporting. Except as propaganda. Which is exactly what this article is, let’s not kid ourselves.
“Outspoken 21 year old says something horrible and outlandish!” Implied: [see what we’re up against? This particular group of HORRIBLE PEOPLE needs to be “relocated.”] Yes, what this person said was horrible. Yes, there are stupid people who are angry and using that anger inappropriately. But this does not change the current situation. An occupying force is wiping out a long-suffering people with the imperial might of the most war-hungry nations and capitalist enterprises in its ear and at its back. This is not a noble endeavor because some 21 year old said something wrong, the 21 year old is wrong for saying what they said. But…so is what the state of Israel is doing to the Palestinian people. The children dying have nothing to do with this idiot. She is nothing more than convenient war machine propaganda.
This isn't an isolated incident. It's one of many posts by influencers like the Hadid sisters, Mia Khalifa, and more. She's an idiot, but she's representative example of Palestinian sentiment at the moment.
The children dying right now are the result of an unrelenting campaign of violent hate speech and teaching hatred in schools.
You can't blame the children dieing on anyone but the people responsible for actually dropping the bombs and shooting the bullets.
Violence is almost never the answer, and indiscriminate violence actually never ever is.
No one but the children are without fault in this conflict, but still far too many (more than 0) children pay the ultimate price. You can wage war without killing children, it just costs more. But if you can't pay that price then the war can't ever be considered just.
A 16 year old is a child, right? Let's look at some semi-hypotheticals and you tell me who you think is to blame:
- A 16 year old with a butcher knife who has already stabbed two people
- A 16 year old being told to stand next to a jeep in the middle of a firefight
- A 16 year old shooting a rifle
- A 4 year old boy who is forced to be next to a senior commander 24/7 who holds the boy in front of him when the shooting starts
War is hell, and it is complicated. Child soldiers will die, and there will be civilians caught in the crossfire. The is no track for this trolley that has 0 children. Any military has to balance the number of civilians killed vs the risk to its own soldiers vs the likelihood of killing their intended targets. If you expect them to sacrifice hundreds or thousands of soldiers just to avoid a few civilians, you grossly misunderstand how the world works. Most military forces will certainly be unwilling to sacrifice a single soldier for a single civilian, even on their own side.
- The punishment for murder should never be murder
- The person shooting the unarmed civilian
- If the 16 year old is engaged in the fighting and is a soldier then he's no longer a civilian and thus fair game. The people putting rifles in the hands of kids and telling them to fight are to blame.
- Someone using a kid as a literal meat shield in an actual firefight is an insane hypothetical. But shooting the kid to kill the commander can't ever be considered the moral/just/right answer.
You're just apologizing for war. Why? What's so good/important about war that you need to defend it? Why is it insane to expect nations to not kill civilians?
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Legally and morally yes in amongst every country. Including Israel.
Ed: I should say according to the talmud no one is adult until 18.
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I see your indoctrination and raise it with Israeli racism. If you can post propaganda, I can too. Let the truth win out.
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Shut the fuck up, live in an open air concentration camp for awhile and see how you feel about the occupiers.
You forgot violent hate speech from both sides. Jewish children are indoctrinated to hate the Palestinians too.
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The right wing orthodox settlers are indeed really fucking annoying to witness from the outside. It must be beyond infuriating to be their victims.
Now, imagine Jews having this sentiment towards Nazis during WW2.
After all, they're doing to Palestinians what Nazis did to them.
Not even close.
It's close enough that they should know better.
Which line would they cross that you would consider too close?
I think a better comparison is the Berlin Wall. Palestinians have blue and green pass cards that dictate where they can go. Or even a Separate But Equal, ala American segregation. I mean Palestinians are limited to certain hospitals, denied utilities and free travel. They drive on separate roads, walled off from the Israeli roads.
... But then thats just the ones outside Gaza. Gazans can't leave and spend their days in abhorrent poverty, now while dodging bombs.
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Crazy that people here immediately believe its her that posted this when the Jerusalem Post reports it. It's a random account in her name with a widely available picture, it not hers
Crazy that they provided proof that it was her account. I guess her coauthor tagged a random account in her name with a widely available picture.
If you're so certain it wasn't hers - what was her instagram username before she closed it?
Person says they are to the right of Hitler... They should be treated like other Nazi.
Really hurts the Palestinian cause and people amplifying this might be doing it in bad faith knowing it poisons the well
Easier explanation: She didn't post it, it's an obvious fake designed to put her in jail.
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Daft cow
How would you deal with armed settlers kicking your family out of your home at gunpoint? Sounds like you don’t understand the situation in the West Bank, a location with negligible Hamas presence. Over 50 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli settlers and IDF agents sent to help them enforce their colonization.
How would you deal with armed settlers kicking your family out of your home at gunpoint?
Not by saying "What Hitler did to you will be like a picnic".
Still haven’t told me what you’d do. Answer the question directly instead of deflecting. Imagine your family has been run off their ancestral home and your father was shot in the head by Israeli settlers. Imagine then the IDF backing these settlers up, giving them government approval. Now be honest and ask yourself if it would be easy to remain reasonable and understanding of the opposition at this point.
The way they express this idea is violent and unacceptable but the sentiment didn’t appear in a vacuum. The circumstances that breed this have been very deliberately placed upon Palestinians by extreme Zionists in the Israeli government.
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Ah yes, JPost, which definitely doesnt have skin in this game. Especially considering she denied the post lmao.
Even then, maybe dont settle and kill her family if you're gonna be pissed at her response.
Damn she slapped a soldier who was invading her land. Mad respect there.
Heh, I don't think top comments in this thread are panning out the way OP expected.
The 8 months sentence is a fucking joke.
Yeah, she's not helping anyone.
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