it says "in god we trust" on the dollar...oh! you mean the actual constitution?

Yep. Not one mention of their favorite character from "the" bible. If anything, the First Amendment DIRECTLY contradicts the so-called "first commandment".

The most they get is "endowed by their Creator" in the Declaration of Independence. One word in one document that isn't even an official part of our laws and doesn't refer to a specific "Creator." But they're ready to spin that into "this is really a Christian nation and anyone who isn't Christian or our flavor of Christianity isn't really a citizen!"

I remember some of the magoos gnashing their teeth, crying, and almost literally tearing their garments over the early leak about the abortion decision. They were beside themselves - not just over the "leak" either, but about what they thought it would do to the party's chances.

I think many of them don't really want to show the naked fascist face of the party - just yet.

It sure doesn't help that a weird little man with such weird ideas about my country has such a face...

Keep pasting this. Raise awareness. Too many people have no idea how backwards this guy is. If he gets hos way in even some of that stuff it's going to be really bad.

So, like, if being gay becomes illegal somehow, will they just round all us gay folks up and put us in jail? I wouldn't be opposed to going back into the closet if it would ensure my freedom.

One bullet-point is missing.

Can he eat a brick? I think he should.

Agreed. We need to start enforcing the separation of Church and State. A politician shouldn't be pushing policy based on some religious belief. Not everyone in the US is Christian, and then among those that do identify as such, you have a hundred branches of groups that didn't like something the trunk was doing and branched off to do their own thing. Basing any policy on something that sub group can't even agree upon seems insane.

Every time these people come out and say we need to do xyz because of some religious belief they have, that policy should be null and void on the spot and that person removed from office.

Well, Qbert said she's tired of hearing about separation of church and state, meaning she should be disqualified for the same reason, but even after the vaping and the groping on top of that, she's still in office, sadly.

The closest America comes is in the Declaration of Independence:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

"Their Creator" is about as non-denominational as it gets. It's not like it's saying "endowed by Jesus God." It's more of a generic "men are born with these rights" statement than any statement of religion.

Yet the Christian Fundamentalists will point to that and say "See? That means God and clearly it refers to our God so that means it's a Christian country!"

Oh, and a big reason why the US is secular? We broke off from England where the king was the head of the Church. If you weren't part of the Church of England, you were persecuted against. The founding fathers were trying to avoid that in the US.

Would you also say the US is a white country? See how that sounds?

He definitely means it in the sense of a country run by and for the benefit of Christians, not just a country where most of the people happen to be Christian. Quit trying to let him off the hook.

I wouldn't class agnosticism as cowardly atheism, it's very much its own class.

Atheism is the disbelief of gods or enlightened creation.

Agnosticism is just a "we don't know" catch-all. There might be an Abrahamic god, with a heaven or hell that follows. There might be connected life and consciousness in the form of pantheism, where our consciousness dissipates and gets absorbed into the rest of existence. We might be living in a simulation, and wake up to a world with an entirely different set of rules and beliefs. Or maybe traditional atheism is right, this is our only existence, and we return to nothingness after death.

On a tangent, I'm weirded out by staunch atheists in the same way I'm weirded out by organized religion. We're living subjective experiences of reality fed to us by electrified sacs of meat in our head, and even that could just be the truth on paper given to us by a simulation. We don't know what we don't know. We don't remember what it was like before birth, but a nasty blow to the head could make it so we don't remember what it was like yesterday. Observable and measurable fact is all we have, and anyone who claims to know what's behind it or between the lines, or for that matter what isn't there, is just elaborating on their own worldview, not empirical evidence.

Yeah, something like ~30% are unaffiliated or outright unbelievers. I look forward to the day when the sum total of xtians is under 50% and all the pandering to xtians can finally just stop. So sick of it. They are welcome to have their faith and practice it in their house or place of worship, but I'm sick of pols that wear it on their sleeves, or worse, assume it is the government's role to create more xtians.

I would say the same thing if Buddhists were >50% and all the pandering was just nonstop to them. We'll all be better off if no group has a majority and no pol feels compelled to cater to them.

By the way, it's interesting that "just Christian", Catholicism, Protestantism, and "Mormonism" are broken out differently - they are all xtians. I mean Protestants have many sub-sects within them, and hardly agree on all the finer points of doctrine.