My first distro & my never again distro. Rest in piss, manjaro
Same here. I mean, Pop OS was technically my first, but I only used that for like 2 weeks and then switched to Manjaro.
This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.
I’ve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.
Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.
Look, I don't want to call you a liar... so let's say maybe you meant to say pamac or got things wrong.
Because:
- That's not how
pacmanworks. If it hits a mirror with expired certs it just outputs a warning and uses another mirror. - On a fresh install Manjaro will compile an optical subset of mirrors for you based on location and response time. Those mirrors are spread around the world on different domains. It's very unlikely that your list would include ONLY
mirrors.manjaro.organdmirrors2.manjaro.org. - But even if it did, and let's say for the sake of argument there is a bug in pacman AND you got those mirrors... those two hosts are on a different certificate from manjaro.org (the website), are CNAME'd to
.rsc.cdn77.orghosts, get renewed automatically separately from the website cert, and have never been allowed to lapse afaik.
Maybe it wasn’t due to certs, but it still happened. That was enough for me to switch distros. I was much less experienced with Linux back then, so I wasn’t able to figure out how to get it working again.
So far I’ve daily-driven EndeavorOS, Mint, PopOS, and Kubuntu. None of them have broken themselves with an apt or pacman upgrade.
Doesn't happen with Antergos either.
I mean, I've gotten a NXDomain error ever since they shut down, but at least it's not a certificate expiry!
Yep... Validation of my decision to cachyos after my last drive needed surgery.
some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.
AUR malware
Really, something like this ever happened lol?
I'm sure it has. The idea that it's frequent is unhinged.
And @rotten@lemmy.today
Wait...please tell me y'all heard of that crazy drama recently where there was tons of AUR packages getting infostealer malware added in.
They got a lot more cautious after that incident but... I'm less keen on the AUR now...
Edit: https://archlinux.org/news/active-aur-malicious-packages-incident/
Welcome to Linux, do you want the BenevolentDictatorOS, WeaponsManifaturerOS, MalwareOS or Debian?
Debian and shipping broken packages
Bruh what? I went to debian for server because of stability. It only updates like once a decade and still ships broken packages?
Its intended behavior from Debian team. because they ships a version of the software at the time and only backport security patches. So if the version they ship has bugs then those bugs stay for years. This generates quite a bit of noise for upstream projects but it is what it is.
you forgot the oldest of them all, Debian and the its museum, their repos
Again????? Again???????????
oh my god AGAIN?!
They gotta be trolling the entire linux userbase at this point.
I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.
Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.
HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN
Why set a reminder when an expiration will do the same job
They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.
Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?
Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?
Because manjaro.org is controlled personally by Phil, the CEO of the company, who's paranoid about letting anybody else handle it. And also can't figure out how to renew automatically, apparently. People have to remind him on Discord. 🤦
Everything else *.manjaro.org (forums, mirrors etc.) is handled by different people and have never expired afaik.
It's literally just the main webpage that has this problem, everything else about the distro is never impacted.
Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha
At this point, it's a tradition!
The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).
That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them.
Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.
Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.
I jumped ship after 2 times. Such a shame because I loved the OS but this is the opposite of what I expect a distro to do.
A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.
I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.
The website cert is the one that expires. It doesn't impact anything else about the distro. The package mirrors are on different hosts (and certs). It's a good distro, wish they'd sort out the kerfuffle with the founder (who's the one holding them back).
we know and no it is no good distro. fucking leechers
Is there a running tally somehwere? I need something like the credible defense guys' "0 days since airplane dropped in oceans"
I mean, it happens every 3 months when the LE cert expires...
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