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[-] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 10 points 20 hours ago

My first distro & my never again distro. Rest in piss, manjaro

[-] Onlytanner@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

Same here. I mean, Pop OS was technically my first, but I only used that for like 2 weeks and then switched to Manjaro.

This is literally why I stopped using Manjaro.

I’ve botched 2 Manjaro installs just doing a pacman -Syu while their certs were expired and I ended up with an incomplete upgrade.

Never once had this issue with EndeavorOS.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 22 hours ago

Look, I don't want to call you a liar... so let's say maybe you meant to say pamac or got things wrong.

Because:

  1. That's not how pacman works. If it hits a mirror with expired certs it just outputs a warning and uses another mirror.
  2. On a fresh install Manjaro will compile an optical subset of mirrors for you based on location and response time. Those mirrors are spread around the world on different domains. It's very unlikely that your list would include ONLY mirrors.manjaro.org and mirrors2.manjaro.org.
  3. But even if it did, and let's say for the sake of argument there is a bug in pacman AND you got those mirrors... those two hosts are on a different certificate from manjaro.org (the website), are CNAME'd to .rsc.cdn77.org hosts, get renewed automatically separately from the website cert, and have never been allowed to lapse afaik.

Maybe it wasn’t due to certs, but it still happened. That was enough for me to switch distros. I was much less experienced with Linux back then, so I wasn’t able to figure out how to get it working again.

So far I’ve daily-driven EndeavorOS, Mint, PopOS, and Kubuntu. None of them have broken themselves with an apt or pacman upgrade.

[-] stardreamer 4 points 1 day ago

Doesn't happen with Antergos either.

I mean, I've gotten a NXDomain error ever since they shut down, but at least it's not a certificate expiry!

[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago

Yep... Validation of my decision to cachyos after my last drive needed surgery.

[-] rozodru@piefed.world 114 points 2 days ago

some iconic duos in the Linux community: Arch and AUR malware, Ubuntu and bad updates, NixOS and community/team members leaving, Manjaro and failing to renew its cert.

[-] rotten@lemmy.today 4 points 17 hours ago

AUR malware

Really, something like this ever happened lol?

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

I'm sure it has. The idea that it's frequent is unhinged.

[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

And @rotten@lemmy.today

Wait...please tell me y'all heard of that crazy drama recently where there was tons of AUR packages getting infostealer malware added in.

They got a lot more cautious after that incident but... I'm less keen on the AUR now...

Edit: https://archlinux.org/news/active-aur-malicious-packages-incident/

[-] not_IO 38 points 1 day ago

Welcome to Linux, do you want the BenevolentDictatorOS, WeaponsManifaturerOS, MalwareOS or Debian?

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Debian and shipping broken packages

Bruh what? I went to debian for server because of stability. It only updates like once a decade and still ships broken packages?

[-] Auth@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Its intended behavior from Debian team. because they ships a version of the software at the time and only backport security patches. So if the version they ship has bugs then those bugs stay for years. This generates quite a bit of noise for upstream projects but it is what it is.

[-] protogen420 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

you forgot the oldest of them all, Debian and the its museum, their repos

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[-] orenj@leminal.space 48 points 1 day ago

Again????? Again???????????

[-] lime@feddit.nu 244 points 2 days ago
[-] 9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 160 points 2 days ago

They gotta be trolling the entire linux userbase at this point.

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[-] mrmaplebar@fedia.io 188 points 2 days ago

I like a distro with problems that I can relate to.

[-] world_cavve@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago

Bad memory/routines? We have to be related. Since that feels like me.

[-] Saapas@piefed.zip 121 points 2 days ago

HOW THE FUCK DID THEY MANAGE IT AGAIN

[-] whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

Why set a reminder when an expiration will do the same job

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 91 points 2 days ago

They managed this again by not actually managing it... again.

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[-] ComradeRachel 29 points 1 day ago

Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 7 points 21 hours ago

Why isn’t this an automated processs for them?

Because manjaro.org is controlled personally by Phil, the CEO of the company, who's paranoid about letting anybody else handle it. And also can't figure out how to renew automatically, apparently. People have to remind him on Discord. 🤦

Everything else *.manjaro.org (forums, mirrors etc.) is handled by different people and have never expired afaik.

It's literally just the main webpage that has this problem, everything else about the distro is never impacted.

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[-] mamg22@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 days ago

Manjaro once again demonstrating they're not a serious distro/project, hahaha

[-] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 26 points 2 days ago

At this point, it's a tradition!

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 81 points 2 days ago

The funniest thing about this is that it needs a single Bash script and a cronjob to solve (unless they got a REALLY bad hoster).

That bash script probably exists a bazillion times already… so even an LLM could spit it out for them.

Their organisational structure must be abhorrent for nobody to feel even remotely responsible for this.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 54 points 2 days ago

Most web server have ACME support built-in nowadays, setup is a matter of minutes, no scripting required. This has been a solved problem for years, any sysadmin who can't handle this basic task has no business running public-facing servers.

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[-] psilotop@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I jumped ship after 2 times. Such a shame because I loved the OS but this is the opposite of what I expect a distro to do.

[-] kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com 61 points 2 days ago

lmao, what're they up to now, 8 times?

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[-] esc@piefed.social 38 points 2 days ago

A little stability and consistency in the world, manjaro always delivers when it comes to this.

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago

I’m shocked it even has any users tbh.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 21 hours ago

The website cert is the one that expires. It doesn't impact anything else about the distro. The package mirrors are on different hosts (and certs). It's a good distro, wish they'd sort out the kerfuffle with the founder (who's the one holding them back).

[-] Kazel@feddit.org 2 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

we know and no it is no good distro. fucking leechers

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[-] Dialectical_Specialist@quokk.au 13 points 1 day ago

Is there a running tally somehwere? I need something like the credible defense guys' "0 days since airplane dropped in oceans"

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago

I mean, it happens every 3 months when the LE cert expires...

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