If we're to fix this, they both gotta go

Look kiddo, the adults in the room know that if you keep voting for the lesser of two evils, they'll eventually feel guilty and give you some candy. It's called Democracy: look it up.

"Win back the working class".

The Ds and Rs have been working against the working class for about 70 years.

Yes, I know the Ds provide more lip service... but the numbers don't lie. Pay is down, life expectancy is down, everything is down but corporate profits.

Unions were almost 50% of the workforce back in the 50s, now they are down to less than 10%, and most of that is government employees.

Even Poland now has better worker benefits than the USA, maternity leave, vacation, and other benefits Americans can only dream of. We have been surpassed by Eastern Europe.

It sure would be nice to have a labor party in the USA. You can't win back the working class by actively fucking them over for generations.

"I dont know what to do, i dont know how to reach out to these good men and women to communicate with and to share our values"

"have you tried talking to them? Listening to their needs?"

"What? Why the fuck would I lower my self to the peasantry. They just need to do what they're told and like it.. now how do we make them understand this"

My fringe idea is to bring back the Bull Moose party, it can be a caucus within the Dem party like the DSA but basically full of people who will fight MAGA and project 2025 with all the dirty tricks the mainstream dems refuse to use

looks at my state well, I would vote for a socialist if I had one... :( I'll still vote though, regardless.

Fuck the GOP for sure but it's hard to still believe in a two-party system without seeing both parties as eerily similar.

Either you solve the problems of the working people, or you blame it all on immigrants and minorities.

Only one of these approaches is consistent with what the oligarchs want.

When Biden sided with the railroads I lost the last shred of hope I had for the party.

The inherent problem with the DNC is that rank in the party is designated by seniority, and all the current senior members came into power when Third Way politics became popularized.

Third way politics is the actual non conspiracy reason you should hate the Clintons. They popularized it in America as a way to get past the gridlock of Congress that started in the early 90s. Basically they would work with "centrist" politicians on the other side of the aisle on any policy that both parties could agree with. This decongested the grid lock and "proved" that Democrats could be trusted to navigate the center path.

In reality it ceded control over what policy made up the middle ground over to Republicans, who took the opportunity to drag the DNC further and further right. So now we have a "leftist" political party that has been trained for the last 30 years to reflexively make concessions at the whim of the increasingly fascist right.

Vote red-violet no matter who.

they spend millions, consulting with the donors and gop Behind closed doors to be exact.

Coming from the polls on MDC today I can tell D voters registered and living in the 305 just didn't show up. This is why we can't have nice things.

People who see enough “real” lose their ability to consume or be influenced by bullshit. You’ll see this in healthcare among experienced staff. People are often their authentic selves, for better or worse, when ill or in pain. More so, with staff members who spend the most time dealing directly with the people.

What happens is healthcare management loses their ability to bullshit or talk sideways to staff to placate them.

I feel like the people as a whole are becoming like that now. (Finally). In response to political spin. The “muzzle velocity” approach to news has accelerated that progression. People are generally done with bullshit and talking sideways from their politicians.

What will happen if democrats try anything less than authenticity, is they will likely cease to exist as a party. The “vote against” momentum is already dying.