I agree it’s as valuable as 1,000 monkey NFTs but why is software engineering using all over what am I missing.
I see incompetent people not knowing they've created garbage, yes, but I also see competent people using it as a power tool/time multiplier. Purely in the context of programming, it's like a typewriter. You can give infinite type writers to infinite monkeys and eventually get Shakespeare, or you can give one typewriter to Shakespeare and get more Shakespeare faster.
It's like IDE's and the old code introspection/code completion. It saves time in competent hands.
That said, it also erodes skill. I have seen people very quickly surrender their shallower knowledge to the LLM's, which limits IMHO flexibility and creativity.
Then there's the whole paying a subscription to access your own knowledge black mirror aspect of it all.
I'm not a fan, but I'm not going to pretend like they don't work in some contexts.
Almost no value? Slop content has NEGATIVE value.
Correct!
When something has a cost value exceeding its utility value; it would be considered net negative value.
pedantic
e.g. lets say that something costs 100 resource units; and produces 110 units of value this would be a positive. For AI content, we can say it costs 100 units but is worth 10 units, thus has -90 units of value.
Negavalue
There's tons of value! Venture capitalists and tech firms sinking their last dimes into circular debt... The government changing finance rules so investment firms can sink your 401k retirement funds into unregulated private equity firms so they can sink YOUR last dime into AI... Investment banks tranching bad AI debt and reselling it just like they did back in '08 with mortgage-backed securities... There's tons of value. You just need an Enron mindset...
I'd be more pissed if I had retirement savings. But joking aside, that was a truly heinous move to pull in those FOMO investment managers, which has surely boned over many people without their knowledge. I do know people who have retirement savings or pensions, and it might make me feel sad when I see them wandering the streets and digging through trash for food in their old age.
Slop has negative value because it is essentually spam, the one thing you want to weed out from a healthy community.
People enjoyed it for about five minutes and then they got bored.
Because it's all the fucking same and these LLM's are programmed as a race to the middle.
Why is everything fucking purple? Is that the average color it's trained on or something.
the marketplace is being flooded by AI-generated assets, representing one in six models — but they only account for only $1 out of every $90 in revenue.
Sorry, but that's not valueless.
And if someone can pump out near infinite trash for nearly no cost and earn 1% of what they'd earn by actually doing real work, they'll continue to flood the market because it is economically viable, unfortunately
if someone can pump out near infinite trash for nearly no cost and earn 1% of what they’d earn by actually doing real work, they’ll continue to flood the market because it is economically viable, unfortunately
True, it's a similar reason why spam, phishing, and various internet scams exist. Only a very small portion of what they put out generates any money, but it's enough to keep them going and presumably more than what they think they'd earn doing real work.
"there's a sucker born every day"
for nearly no cost
Big players like OpenAI lose money on every non-paying user. They can do this because they expect to be the one who takes it all in the end. But this will not last. There will be a day the remaining companies will stop giving out freebies and the wide arrange of options we have now will shrink and the remaining options will enshittify. If their costs rise, their prices will increase and they might find themselves in a position not making any money anymore.
AI can be self hosted trivially.
Trivially - if you have already spent a fortune on a gaming pc that is.
No. You're talking about training.
Running is trivial. Firefox does local offline translations with AI models that run fine on very shitty old computers without any GPU
Yo, dude, spend your electricity on mining BitCoins instead. That shit is no doubt useless, yet more useful than AI slop.
CGTrader is a cancerous company. They have implemented every feature they can think of to screw their creators, and increase their profit margins on the back of the hard working 3d artists :
1- After becoming one of the biggest 3d markets (I think 2nd) they have lowered creator's share from sales from 70% to 60%
2- They have allowed 3d generated trash to be sold along side human created content taking away traffic from creators
3- They have introduced a pay to to rank for products. meaning on top of the 40% share they are taking, now they expect creators to pay to have a chance for their products to show up in a very crowded maket
4- 5 Out of 7 days of the week. CGTrader is running sales, with the lowest discount on weekends being 30 % and on weekdays being 50%. Creators who don't opt-in to those sales shouldn't hope to receive any views to their products. they are pressuring prices down because they can earn more on volume. while mid sized creator shops take the loss.
5- They are introducing subscriptions akin to spottily. If most customers switch into subscriptions instead of buying single product, than creator's revenue will quickly crater
6- Now the Cherry on the top : they have introduced the option for users to directly generate AI 3d models. trained on the millions of models the platform is hosting. Despite providing the option to opt-out products from ai training, it is hard to trust such a greedy company to honor creators choice. especialy when no one has access to the training data set and no independent company has made an audit.
Since CGTrader introduced all these changes my revenue went down 65% compared to before.
If you care about human created content and creator's agency. avoid buying from CGTrader and TurboSquid ,most creators have their products listed elsewhere. and if you buy from their own shops the creators will receive a bigger share cutting out these cancerous middlemen.
The consumers of said product knew that way before the economy did.
Infinite supply with zero demand, of course is has no value.
All it does is flood the market with garbage, ruining the value for real creators.
That's not true. It has negative value. We lost a lot of coworkers from layoffs.
AI companies are burning money by giving the same pile of money to each other and jacking up prices of hardware.
AI influencers are spending thousands of dollars to make hot garbage that nobody wants.
It's not zero value.
It has costs, not negative value.
Costs without return is negative mate.
The people who pay the cost are not the people who earn the money, it's not simple arithmetic.
Fuck AI
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