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[-] Strider@lemmy.world 3 points 53 minutes ago

Seeing citadel in the background is just chef's kiss.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 hour ago

This reads exactly like someone trying to foist off blame on an already hated Policing system. We already hate the cops, my guy. But guess what? We can do two things at once. Three things even. Our hatred is legion.

[-] keiko@fedia.io 36 points 4 hours ago

Consequently, Flock CEO Garrett Langley is now in full damage control mode.

It's interesting how this coincides with the news about the cases against Luigi, and I can't help but wonder if this CEO fears becoming like that other CEO.

The company is still trying to paint itself as the good guy

I find it very hard to believe that anyone in that company, especially the CEO, believes themselves to be "the good guy"

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 20 points 3 hours ago

I quit a job for moral reasons after nearly two years because it took that long for me to realize that it wasn’t actually at all cool to work at an insurance company defending businesses that gave their employees mesothelioma (among many other types of claims).

It sounds obvious when you say it like that, but it took a while for me to realize that when the defense and plaintiff’s attorneys are all good friends with each other and with the mediators involved, there’s not actually much of a check on them negotiating multiple cases in conjunction (I’ll come down to $5k for smith and jones each, but I can’t settle Simmons for less than $200k).

When I witnessed that, I told my boss, who was horrified, until he realized that they weren’t billing that conversation to multiple claims, and then he didn’t see the issue. My management had always been very vocally in favor of paying what we owed, not trying to minimize our payments, but as long as the breach of ethics wasn’t “coming from our side,” they were perfectly happy to take advantage of it.

I’m very much not proud of this, but I think I could have continued believing that I was helping the real victims who had yet to come forward by saving the coverage reserves in the cases that were in front of me (through actively defending them and haggling during the negotiation of settlements, not through any funny business of my own) indefinitely, had I not witnessed that conversation or received such a blasé response from my company.

[-] SnoopSqueak@lemmy.today 11 points 3 hours ago

Thank you for caring. Too many people are willing to harm others for pay as long as they can distance themselves from the consequences.

[-] titanicx@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 hours ago

No. This has to do with the negative press and the thousands of contracts they are losing. Not everything has to do with that case

[-] PasswordIsTaco@infosec.pub 2 points 4 hours ago

Everyone’s the hero in their own story.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 hours ago

You'd be surprised at just how far some people can stick their heads up their own ass, I always am.

[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Flock CEO Garrett Langley is now in full damage control mode. The narrative he’s pushing: that it’s all a big misunderstanding. In a new interview, he told Bloomberg that “we’re not Big Brother”

Well they may not want the mantle of "Big Brother," but they are 100% a part of the Big Brother system of surveillance that's currently tracking all of us. Patriot Act says that the government has next to unlimited surveillance authority during a declared emergency, so every president since then has been re-upping that "National Emergency" so that the surveillance machine can keep on chugging. There is no indication that it will ever stop. The pretense of us operating under "Threat level Orange" for over 2 and a half decades is ridiculous.

Also, the Flock system is a really stupid part of Big Brother. In one instance, it misread license plate numbers an astonishing 71% of the time.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 99 points 6 hours ago

“The central point is simple,” reads the announcement. “An alert is a lead, not a conclusion, which should be confirmed by an officer”

You mean the same officers who regularly serve no-knock warrants on the wrong house?

[-] CapuccinoCoretto@lemmy.world 43 points 5 hours ago

You demand perfection and it's unffair. Who hasn't flashbanged a baby in a crib from time to time. /s

[-] fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 14 points 5 hours ago
[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

It's crazy that you have so many nickels.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 7 points 3 hours ago

Yes, I'm sure. But the misunderstanding is the thought that we would just accept your bullshit and do nothing about it. You evil asshole.

[-] supersquirrel@lemmy.ca 126 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

That is also what innocent people who have had their lives shattered and obliterated by these machines were likely screaming through tears and terror as they were beaten and violently forced into the back of an unmarked SUV by thugs with machine guns.

[-] darthsundhaft@piefed.social 3 points 3 hours ago

Just wait till we bust out Luigi. Then you'll be sorry asshole.

[-] CobraChicken3000@lemmy.ca 12 points 4 hours ago

Oh, you didn't understand? Get the fuck out of our communities. It's simple.

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 74 points 6 hours ago

Has he gotten literally any consequences?

[-] ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 28 points 6 hours ago

Not yet but I bet he gets scared whenever he sees a woodchipper near by

[-] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

He’ll be fine, he doesn’t have a spine or a heart.

[-] snoons@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Someone should make a specialized woodchipper (ceochipper) with those meat crushing rollers instead of the blades or whatevers inside.

[-] LostCarcosan@lemmy.today 8 points 4 hours ago
[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

Something something eat the rich.

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's a meat grinder.

[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

A big misunderstanding???

My guy, not to be like, needlessly hyperbolic, or anything, but the general sentiment I see is that most Americans wouldn't mind seeing you skinned alive. Fucking NOBODY likes Flock, outside of those directly working in the surveillance apparatus, and even THEY hate you!!!

So incredibly tonedeaf...

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 25 points 6 hours ago

What's really scary is how little coverage these cameras/this company/these stories get in Europe.

Very, very little, if any. I don't think that I've seen it heard anything other than what I see on Lemmy.

[-] dummyboymc23@lemmy.zip 14 points 5 hours ago

Wait it's not talked about over the pond? They're a hugely controversial and admonished thing here in the states. The panopticon, if you will

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 56 minutes ago)

I'm not the most up to date on the news, but I've seen no coverage at all about Flock here in Sweden. Palantir is more widely known, because our military is making use of the tech, as is Polisen.

I've seen a couple of surveillance towers in my town. It's hellishly dystopian.

Edit: So an article came out today saying that they're going to implement real time face detection systems. Great!

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 3 points 5 hours ago

I haven't seen them mentioned once in any of the media. That doesn't mean that they haven't been, it is just likely that any mention of them is a small story that could easily be glossed over.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Do cops in Europe handle their cameras better?

[-] Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 hours ago

They don't have bodycams here. And handing over cctv footage to the police is voluntary afaik, they can't demand footage with a warrant.

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 5 points 5 hours ago

Many countries have only just got bodycams, many do not still have them.

Public CCTV has grown where I am, but nothing like Flock.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 hours ago

Afaik the police is not corrupt in Europe, just a little bit backwards in some countries

[-] Babalugats@feddit.uk 7 points 5 hours ago

They're corrupt, but not yet on the scale that is seemingly mentioned over there.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 30 points 6 hours ago

he told Bloomberg that “we’re not Big Brother” — definitely not a thing that Big Brother would say, right?

[-] atrielienz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

Even Hoover didn't say that.

It was all a big misunderstanding

[-] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 19 points 6 hours ago

Crook needs to be tried.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The type and the scale of information being collected on people is the problem, not the retention window.

And no matter how much Mr. Langley wants to spin that the surveillance system only creates "leads" that are supposedly checked and acted upon by officers, look at how military surveillance systems like Lavender, which essentially was used as an excuse generator for why the IDF should bomb a person. Cops' behaviour with Flock to date already shows that they don't check their AI-generated leads first.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

That’s the flock guy?

Cripes.

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